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Battle Ground spoilers: Harry’s pairing. What do you think?
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on October 26, 2020, 10:02:23 AM ---Could you quote this part about Black Court. I cannot remember it.
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In Chapter 41 of White Night
Lasciel leaned closer. "He Who Walks Behind is an Outsider, Harry. A terrible creature, the most potent of the Walkers, a powerful knight among their ruling entities. But when he came for you, you overthrew him." ...
Thud-thump : 1:25.
"Listen," Lasciel said, giving my head a little shake. "You have the potential to hold great power over them. You may be able to escape the power now held over you. If you are sure it is what you want, I can give you an opportunity to defy Malvora's sending. But you'll have to hurry. I don't know how long it will take to throw it off, and they are almost upon you."
After which, we were going to have a long talk about my mother and these Outsiders and their relation to the Black Court and exactly what the hell was going on.
Lasciel - Lash, rather - nodded once and said, "I will tell you all that I can, Harry."
What I am wondering is when Harry will driven to ask Bonea about the Outsiders and what it means to be Starborn, seeing as she knows everything Lash knew. I have little doubt that the next time Harry talks to LTW; assuming the Senior Council member doesn't die before a year has past, he will be told that the Senior Council, or those SC members who are in the know, don't trust Harry enough to inform him. I doubt anything Harry does as a non-White Council member will increase their confidence in him.
Mira:
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After which, we were going to have a long talk about my mother and these Outsiders and their relation to the Black Court and exactly what the hell was going on.
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Given that line, it makes more sense that Drakul and Mavra would suddenly show up at the beginning of the battle. They were doing their part in the diversion and the sewing of chaos in the middle of things. That doesn't exclude the White Court from a close association with the Outsiders, I believe they also do.
Dina:
I resurrect this thread to say that this quote by Nivarius pretty much summarizes what I think
--- Quote ---It seems to me that Mab has probably more than one or two reasons for wanting to marry Harry to Lara.
I'd argue, given what we've seen in recent books, that Mab always tries to protect Harry (despite Harry's objections that she would only care for a Knight who can protect himself, she's been doing a lot to help him or prevent him from doing mistakes). So I assume that her main reason for her to make them marry is to protect Harry. She wanted it to happen right away. Why? Most people thought it was to torture Harry, but what had just happened? Harry had just been kicked off the WC, so he's basically defenseless. An alliance/marriage with Lara would mean one thing to Harry's potential enemies: if you attack him, you attack the WCV. Mab cannot protect her Knight openly, or it would make him look weak, but by giving him an ally who is basically a Chief of State of an Accorded Nation, attacking Harry would mean a lot more to potential random enemies (it's not gonna stop Mavra or some crazies/really powerful enemies, but it can stop others).
Second, Mab has to repay the favors she owes to Lara, and from her point of view, there's no reason not to strengthen Winter's position by making a more permanent and reliable ally out of the WCV, especially since Lara is such a good political player.
Third, the marriage is meant to piss off Molly, and to basically tell her to forget her human emotions and to start acting like a Queen of Winter. Mab said she was lacking and too dangerous to become Mab right now. Considering what we've seen about Mab, it's probably about being "cold" enough to put your feelings aside and do what's necessary. And Molly can't say no to Harry and will always run to help him, even if it means somewhat endangering her duties as a Winter Queen or exhausting herself and leaving her vulnerable.
Fourth, it widens the gap between Harry and the WC. From what we've seen at the end of BG, the Accorded Nations don't trust the WC, or they would have invited them to their private talks. One-Eye and Mab at least know that they're probably at least somewhat directed by either Nemesis or the Black Council (or both). It also protects Harry from the WC, because basically killing Harry would mean waging war on two Accorded Nations, which even the WC might be reluctant to do, especially in their weakened state.
Fifth, it protects Harry from Lara. She might be a "good guy" nowadays, but she still puts her interests or that of her family/Court first. Making Harry part of that family would make her less likely to kill him for political reasons.
Also, I agree that Lara totally knew what she was asking. She's completely in femme fatale falling for the detective mode right now. Freydis told us as much in PT.
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Also, what Regenbogen said about the courting teaching Harry some social skills, basically.
That said, I hope in the end they don't marry. I am not interested in Harry's being married.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Dina on November 13, 2020, 09:15:07 PM ---I resurrect this thread to say that this quote by Nivarius pretty much summarizes what I thinkAlso, what Regenbogen said about the courting teaching Harry some social skills, basically.
That said, I hope in the end they don't marry. I am not interested in Harry's being married.
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Except that I do not believe marrying Lara would make him really part of the family. That is not how vampires look at non vampire spouses.
Dina:
He does not need to be considered "family" but "under the protection" for alliance.
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