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Duopoly one if the worst “books” in the series-SPOILERS
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 03, 2020, 02:04:53 PM ---Between turncoat and changes according to the Brief Cases short story collection.
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OK, so yeah, that's a little later than what the Walker said.
--- Quote from: Mira on October 03, 2020, 02:40:46 PM ---She became Lara's secretary at the end of Blood Rites, that is pretty close but it may have been a while before Nemeses decided to take advantage of that.
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The question is still one of opportunity, though. When she could have been possessed. Though given we don't know the mechanisms of it -- whether she'd need to be out or captured somewhere for a while -- it's hard to narrow it down.
Unless Lara's the one who infected her, but that's a WAG at best.
Mira:
--- Quote ---The question is still one of opportunity, though. When she could have been possessed. Though given we don't know the mechanisms of it -- whether she'd need to be out or captured somewhere for a while -- it's hard to narrow it down.
Unless Lara's the one who infected her, but that's a WAG at best.
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I don't think Lara had anything to do with it. In Grave Peril she was captured along with Susan. Susan got half turned I think out of spite by Bianca, supposedly nothing happened to Justine. However it was at that very party that Cowl gave Lea the Knife infected with Nemeses. So it is plausible that if they knew the connection between her, Thomas, and the White Court, with the help from Bianca, Justine was also infected. That is a WAG, but plausible because of the connections..
At the end of Blood Rites, she then becomes Lara's secretary/assistant and supposedly was doing some spying for Harry as well. We know all the Outsider connections with the White Court so it is also plausible that it was set up then.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 03, 2020, 06:36:04 PM ---I don't think Lara had anything to do with it. In Grave Peril she was captured along with Susan. Susan got half turned I think out of spite by Bianca, supposedly nothing happened to Justine. However it was at that very party that Cowl gave Lea the Knife infected with Nemeses. So it is plausible that if they knew the connection between her, Thomas, and the White Court, with the help from Bianca, Justine was also infected. That is a WAG, but plausible because of the connections..
At the end of Blood Rites, she then becomes Lara's secretary/assistant and supposedly was doing some spying for Harry as well. We know all the Outsider connections with the White Court so it is also plausible that it was set up then.
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The problem with an infection that early is that she did not look that important in Grave Peril. Pappa Raith was in power and Thomas was a spoiled brat soon to be killed by his father just like the other ones.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 03, 2020, 07:25:07 PM ---The problem with an infection that early is that she did not look that important in Grave Peril. Pappa Raith was in power and Thomas was a spoiled brat soon to be killed by his father just like the other ones.
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Thomas was Harry's brother. Plenty of "people" seemed to know then. Why not Nemesis? That's reason enough.
The real problem with Grave Peril is that Justine was infected after Blood Rites. That's what HWWBeside said anyway.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 03, 2020, 07:25:07 PM ---The problem with an infection that early is that she did not look that important in Grave Peril. Pappa Raith was in power and Thomas was a spoiled brat soon to be killed by his father just like the other ones.
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But things are not always what they seem, what better way to plant someone who would then work her way up to being important? That way Nemeses could hang out in plain sight in a crazy girl who's only value seemingly was as kine...
--- Quote ---The real problem with Grave Peril is that Justine was infected after Blood Rites. That's what HWWBeside said anyway.
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HWWBesde only said since Justine became close to Lara. However HWWBeside is an Outsider, which isn't the same as Nemeses is it? So the Nemeses infection could happened earlier. It is a bit confusing though because HWWBeside is a Walker, an Outsider, but Harry also call him Nemeses, are they the same thing or not? If not, the two could have happened at different times. As I said, at Bianca's party the Knife infected with Nemeses was given to Lea.. Justine could have been infected then, which softened her up for the Walker to take over later. I don't know but it all seems plausible.
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