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Duopoly one if the worst “books” in the series-SPOILERS
gawime:
Yes battleground was action packed. Yes battleground had interesting reveals. But peace talks/battleground was also dumb.
Exhibit A) Thomas. If Justine is nemfected, in what way does throwing your life away help in any way shape or form. Even if it was just a gambit to buy some time, he didn’t tell anyone about the situation, so how can he reasonably expect his child and love to be saved? Thomas is many things, but not dumb. A big part of the plot hinges on Thomas being dumb.
Exhibit B) Thomas ending up in Demonreach. This is an odd turn to say the least. We have never seen a wampire that’s alive yet unable to heal itself. Basically if they’re alive they’re healing. That’s been true the entire series. But suddenly Thomas is dying, and Harry’s solution is to entomb how at Demonreach? That’s gimmicky. And a serious contingency of nemesis’ plan is for Thomas to end up entombed there. That just doesn’t track.
Exhibit C) Harry’s conjuritis or whatever it’s called. What point did this serve? It’s a weird tonal shift. And it’s extremely odd Harry’s never heard of it. And it doesn’t seem to tax Harry. If he can be dropping 1000 pound anvils on blampires, why doesn’t he do that instead of inneffectively yelling “forzare”
Mira:
And apparently Alfred can't handle an Outsider?
Thana†os:
well...
A - Justine was pregnant...a pregnant lover can make people do incredibly dumb things. Basically he was being blackmailed, "I'll kill this body and unborn child unless you perform an assassination. If you do, I will let them both go." - I've seen movies with that plot, basically.
B - I thought they had established there were certain circumstances where a vampire could essentially be unable to heal themselves and die from wounds and so, a stasis pod isn't out of line thinking. They do that with people, put them on the blood bypasses while they try to look for answers to save them. Still, I do agree with you some here, gimmicky and ultimately par of the plan for Nemfected Justine to get not he island.
C- It was definitely a plot device and poorly placed and used. I'm in total agreement with you there. 100%.
Alfred - It could be he might have trouble fighting an Outsider that was INVITED onto the island, even if that guest right was revoked before Harry got incapacitated somehow. Think The Trojan Horse. Can't breach the walls? sneak inside and open the gates.
Not his worst book, but definitely not his best either. The split hurt the book a bit, it feels like chunks of some stuff were missing, especially at the end. It felt a bit rushed, so I wonder where it will pick up at the next book.
(I'm looking at you Butcher - for not mentioning Mister at all in the aftermath)
I'm unhappy about Murphy...I think he was just starting to write her well again only to take her out. I knew it had to happen of course, because of her mortality and wounds mostly sidelining her. Some people aren't the type to go quietly. I actually saw how it was going to be Rudolph doing it when he was put in the book and so freaked out (because - seen that plenty of times in movies and other books). But it was still a bit of a shock when it actually happened (and I had guessed, right after her heroic bit, that was going to be doomsday for her).
I feel sorry for Laura...you'd think after knowing Susan and Murphy going down, she'd want to stay FAR, FAR away from him as a wife/lover/whatever. I always liked Laura, I hope she doesn't get killed off too lol
Still, overall I thought it was done decently well. I'm sure Jim is feeling the burn out and same thing ole GRR Martin is - his plots and threads have gotten so convoluted that it makes writing them a big headache and puts a damper on the whole thing. I suspect we'll get another Aeronaut book next and may that will help him.
morriswalters:
The whole sneeze an anvil thing is prep work and continuation of something started in Skin Games. Harry's going to use it at some point to shape shift. Gray uses calls matter from the Never Never when he changes mass and Eb shows Harry that it is possible to stabilize it by adding power
As to the rest we agree.
Mira:
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A - Justine was pregnant...a pregnant lover can make people do incredibly dumb things. Basically he was being blackmailed, "I'll kill this body and unborn child unless you perform an assassination. If you do, I will let them both go." - I've seen movies with that plot, basically.
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I buy the blackmail thing, but at time, how would that help Justine and the baby? Only thing if somehow Thomas was convinced if the did this, the baby would be free of the Hunger or Justine would be protected from it.
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B - I thought they had established there were certain circumstances where a vampire could essentially be unable to heal themselves and die from wounds and so, a stasis pod isn't out of line thinking. They do that with people, put them on the blood bypasses while they try to look for answers to save them. Still, I do agree with you some here, gimmicky and ultimately par of the plan for Nemfected Justine to get not he island.
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I think it is pretty well established that to heal a WCvamp needs to feed if they are injured bad enough. Then the feeding is to the death, that was what Raith was after when he put Justine in bed with Thomas in Blood Rites when he was so badly hurt. That is what Shaggy did do him over and over again in Turn Coat, beat him up to the point of death, then feed him a young girl.
--- Quote ---Alfred - It could be he might have trouble fighting an Outsider that was INVITED onto the island, even if that guest right was revoked before Harry got incapacitated somehow. Think The Trojan Horse. Can't breach the walls? sneak inside and open the gates.
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But at the same time Alfred would have seen though Justine immediately, he had no trouble identifying what Thomas was or Lara. So while I think Trojan Horse is what Nemesis was going for, Harry figured it out before they got to the island. Still unanswered, can or cannot the island hold an Outsider? It can apparently hold everything else, but not an Outsider? Or is Harry so scared of them that he just didn't want to risk it? For that matter, if it couldn't get past the defenses unless it tricked Harry and Alfred, then wouldn't a cell hold it?
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I'm unhappy about Murphy...I think he was just starting to write her well again only to take her out. I knew it had to happen of course, because of her mortality and wounds mostly sidelining her. Some people aren't the type to go quietly. I actually saw how it was going to be Rudolph doing it when he was put in the book and so freaked out (because - seen that plenty of times in movies and other books). But it was still a bit of a shock when it actually happened (and I had guessed, right after her heroic bit, that was going to be doomsday for her).
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I still think it comes down to Jim not having a decent role for Murphy once he kicked her off the police force.
--- Quote ---I feel sorry for Laura...you'd think after knowing Susan and Murphy going down, she'd want to stay FAR, FAR away from him as a wife/lover/whatever. I always liked Laura, I hope she doesn't get killed off too lol
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It is something that came totally out of left field as far as I am concerned. I cannot see how it is going to work, I mean I cannot see Harry allowing Lara to feed off of him during sex no matter how pleasurable.. And I cannot see Lara not feeding off of him, nor can she touch him as long as he has no other sexual partners because he is still protected by his and Murphy's true love.
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