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Arjan:
He did study the artifacts so he might have discovered a few things and demonreach called the other one an athame without any discussion like they both knew already for some time.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Arjan on September 25, 2020, 12:47:02 PM ---He did study the artifacts so he might have discovered a few things and demonreach called the other one an athame without any discussion like they both knew already for some time.

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  Agreed, though he did seem a little uneasy about  the athame.  He says he is "pretty sure" what it is, which means what?  That he has studied it, is 99.9% sure of what it is, but without absolute confirmation cannot be totally certain.  He also has mixed feelings because evidently using it has long term implications for him.  He says on page 336 Peace Talks;


--- Quote ---If it truly was what I was pretty sure it was, then using it was going to put me in a long term pickle.  But if the storm for Chicago was as bad as I thought it was going to be, not using it would be unthinkable.
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Alfred seems to have no doubts that the Spear/Knife was an athame, but it isn't the only one, remember the one that Lea got from Cowl at the party back in Grave Peril.  Harry knows where he found it, what it was grouped with, which is pretty good evidence of what it is.  But he doesn't have total confirmation that it is, what he thinks it is.  However if he uses it, which he believes he will have to, it is going to change his life forever.  Unless of course what people fear from the trailer is true, that somehow the Titan got it away from him, then the world is totally screwed.. Unless of course Harry gets it back.. What if Marcone gets a hold of it??  Can't wait until next Tuesday, hope Amazon gets it to me on the day it comes out this time. ::)

morriswalters:
People get too wound up about this.  Make no mistake, this has no relationship to Religion. He uses the framework but it ain't your old timey religion or else Mab would be the first creature vaporized by Uriel.  I simply pointed out a rationale for how it might work. There isn't anything in the text. Jim didn't write anything.  End of story. Your imagination will need to make up the deficit unless in Battle Ground he chooses to stop the action to supply the exposition.

I suspect it to be a case like Indiana Jones hiding on the deck of a submarine in broad daylight.  Write it and then get the action into high gear and cause the audience to move on and forget it.  Then at some book signing he'll give some hokey explanation and it'll become a WOJ.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 25, 2020, 03:23:34 PM ---People get too wound up about this.  Make no mistake, this has no relationship to Religion. He uses the framework but it ain't your old timey religion or else Mab would be the first creature vaporized by Uriel.  I simply pointed out a rationale for how it might work. There isn't anything in the text. Jim didn't write anything.  End of story. Your imagination will need to make up the deficit unless in Battle Ground he chooses to stop the action to supply the exposition.

I suspect it to be a case like Indiana Jones hiding on the deck of a submarine in broad daylight.  Write it and then get the action into high gear and cause the audience to move on and forget it.  Then at some book signing he'll give some hokey explanation and it'll become a WOJ.

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Getting wound up about these things is what we do  ;D

Conspiracy Theorist:
Harry has the following sources of information

Bob
Bonea
Demonreach
Uriel
Mab

He has certainly spoken with Alfred about them, he has had the opportunity to talk to Uriel about them, as he spoke to Uriel about setting up his family ghost arrangement for Maggie. Bob is likely to know in general what it is even if it is on a different wavelength, Bonea would know about it but it might be difficult to get her to speak about it in relatable terms, Mab would know as she tasked him to get it.

Harry therefore knew. What is amazing is Harry actually asked it.

We might get wound up, but twice a day we go cuckoo

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