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We Now Know What/Who Mac Is
Mira:
--- Quote ---I doubt Rudolph is in the employ of Marcone, Marcone expects his people to be competent, which Rudy is not. It is quite clear that Marcone owns far more senior cops, so it suggests that Rudy is in the pay of someone else, most likely candidate, the White Council and the Merlin faction. They can’t buy anyone in homicide because Marcone got there first. This is why it is Rudy.
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That is up in the air, but; page48 Peace Talks
--- Quote ---I rubbed at the spot between my eyes and growled. "Someone is pulling strings behind the scenes. They got the case bumped over to one of their people. Rudolph"
"And Marcone owns Rudolph," Karrin said. She pursed her lips. "Or so we assumed."
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--- Quote ---They are likely using Rudy to see what Harry was up to with Nicodemus, they know somehow it broke Nicky’s powerbase as Carlos himself acknowledges, but what else? They would have no interest in Murphy (but Rudy has a long-term beef with Murphy, and would let this personal animosity get in the way of his investigation, as I said he isn’t competent).
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But it makes no sense in the context of the book, unless it is a set up for the next book. Now it may happen but so much is going to go down in Battleground that I doubt we will know for a book or maybe even two.
--- Quote ---If push comes to shove, Harry can give evidence of the events leading up to Harvey’s death and point the finger at Tessa, in the wake of Battle Ground, a Denarian culprit will be believable, when before it was not, remember Tilly has a minor practitioners gift, he knows when someone is lying or not. Harry can tell him the truth, be believed and not be institutionalised. I suspect Rudy will do less well against Tilly.
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Can he? They have more against Harry being at the scene than Murphy. Also he'd be trying to explain supernatural events to a jury. Then again after Battleground, they might buy it.
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I do give you another option as to why Murphy isn’t around, a restored Murphy is at Quantico, training. If the Feds are serious about the Supernatural then they would snap her up. So Christmas Eve could have Harry having to put Eb away, realising what Eb has done in the past and him being separated from his girlfriend, and his brother in stasis, and shouldering the guilt of everyone who died.
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Maybe, but if that were true, I don't think Harry would break down and weep like that, I think it is more. He'd be sad about Eb, true, but he was an old man and if he died well, I don't see Harry weeping for him. Thomas may still be on Demonreach, but if he is alive, I don't see Harry weeping for him, there is still hope he'll figure out a solution for him. Interesting when he put him in stasis Harry mentioned Merlin breaking one of the Laws of Magic, time travel to build Demonreach. Perhaps this is the excuse he uses to time travel, it is the only way he can see what happened with Thomas? No, I see Harry weeping for his child, but she lives obviously, so it has to be Murphy. As I said it also accounts for Mab and Kringle treating him like they did.
Conspiracy Theorist:
It’s Christmas, he is missing his dad, and that loss has recently been brought home to him and magnified, his girlfriend and brother aren’t around to console him, only Maggie keeps him going and she keeps asking where’s Great Grandad, and he is shouldering the guilt of so much other loss.
And he has had to sit through Frozen lots of times.
No wonder Kringles gift helps, it has brought back one of his most treasured memories sharp and into focus for and gave something tangible of his father’s to cherish, pushing away more recent bad memories.
He probably still has to sit through Frozen several more times over The Holidays though.
Meanwhile over in Los Angeles, Carlos is having to sit down with his family at Christmas whilst they watch “The 40 Year Old Virgin” again instead of Frozen. Then they watch Frozen.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 18, 2020, 04:05:30 PM ---Maybe, but if that were true, I don't think Harry would break down and weep like that, I think it is more. He'd be sad about Eb, true, but he was an old man and if he died well, I don't see Harry weeping for him
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I strongly disagree; I think the conversation between Harry and Murphy about talking to him before it's too late after Harry fights Eb could very well be foreshadowing for this. And Harry seems very torn up to find out how bad of shape Eb's in mentally.
I really don't think Murphy is going to die in BG, I think the series needs her.
ClintACK:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 18, 2020, 04:05:30 PM ---Maybe, but if that were true, I don't think Harry would break down and weep like that, I think it is more... it has to be Murphy.
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I do expect Murphy to die... but...
I can imagine the same emotional impact from a long list of people and places destroyed. Mac's burned to the ground with Mac, Billy, Georgia and a bunch of other eager young paranetters dead because Harry gave them a rousing pep talk rather than urging them to run for the hills; Butters, Andy and Marci dead getting Harry a shot at Ethniu that doesn't pay off; Michael's house firebombed by Nic's goons while the fae are distracted; half the city flattened with an unrecognizable skyline; Yoshimo and Wild Bill dead in an attack Harry led them on; Fix cut down in a blaze of glory -- leaving exactly zero of the changling kids he tried to protect in Summer Knight; Luccio ambushed, bringing a cohort of wardens to reinforce the defenses; Eb killed without a chance to ever take back the things Harry said when they fought on the docks; Justine and the baby dead because Harry pulled off Goodman Grey to look into something else...
The loss he talked about on Christmas Eve was the cumulative loss of a whole bunch of people -- and his usual arrogance of blaming himself for all of it, not just the loss of one lover.
But, yeah... I think Murphy's toast. I just want to see her get a blaze of glory on the way out.
Mira:
--- Quote from: ClintACK on September 18, 2020, 05:14:37 PM ---I do expect Murphy to die... but...
I can imagine the same emotional impact from a long list of people and places destroyed. Mac's burned to the ground with Mac, Billy, Georgia and a bunch of other eager young paranetters dead because Harry gave them a rousing pep talk rather than urging them to run for the hills; Butters, Andy and Marci dead getting Harry a shot at Ethniu that doesn't pay off; Michael's house firebombed by Nic's goons while the fae are distracted; half the city flattened with an unrecognizable skyline; Yoshimo and Wild Bill dead in an attack Harry led them on; Fix cut down in a blaze of glory -- leaving exactly zero of the changling kids he tried to protect in Summer Knight; Luccio ambushed, bringing a cohort of wardens to reinforce the defenses; Eb killed without a chance to ever take back the things Harry said when they fought on the docks; Justine and the baby dead because Harry pulled off Goodman Grey to look into something else...
The loss he talked about on Christmas Eve was the cumulative loss of a whole bunch of people -- and his usual arrogance of blaming himself for all of it, not just the loss of one lover.
But, yeah... I think Murphy's toast. I just want to see her get a blaze of glory on the way out.
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Yeah, but I wonder how much Harry really wanted to take back? Because from his point of view it was all true. The problem is Eb never said he was sorry or that he may have even made a mistake.
He cannot even see why Harry is trying to raise Maggie, even if it may put her some danger. The emotional damage that was done to both Harry and his mother by Eb's abandonment cannot be measured.
--- Quote ---It’s Christmas, he is missing his dad, and that loss has recently been brought home to him and magnified, his girlfriend and brother aren’t around to console him, only Maggie keeps him going and she keeps asking where’s Great Grandad, and he is shouldering the guilt of so much other loss.
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But that is the whole point! This is the man she loves, knowing him the way she does, if she were alive Murphy would be there helping or even fighting with him on how to put that bike together! I don't buy she is with her family, then "they'd" be with her family. What is preventing her from being there? Breakup? Coin? Severe injury? Prison? Or death? I don't even think becoming an F.B.I. agent would keep her away from Harry on such a night.
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