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TheCuriousFan:
The problem with using the athame at this point is that, judging by the fires, the fighting has already moved past the shoreline.

ClintACK:
I will say I was happy with the Murphy of these two chapters.

She's still present and has Harry's back, but she didn't try to leap into the water and fight the kraken or even shoot it. She took an active role, doing things like getting out a flare and lighting it, or giving Freydis a grenade, but she's acting well within her body's limits and not blindly charging in and becoming a liability. I should have had more faith. :)

She seems to be taking over some of the best parts of Butters' role in Dead Beat. She's a mortal, in over her head, but still able to help through grit and competence. And she gets to be the reader-stand-in for much needed world exposition. (Not everyone has been researching the Ethniu myths since Peace Talks came out! And there's going to be a lot more that we don't know.)

Their relationship even felt more real and healthy than in their first chapter in Peace Talks, where it felt like they were always maneuvering through a minefield of prickly topics. Maybe it's just that they put all the small stuff to the side when things get serious, but it was nice to see. (I'm not sure if it was intentional, but on second reading I laughed at how she's now *physically* "lumpier and pointier than the dictates of romance..." where she was like that metaphorically in chapter 5 of Peace Talks.)

vultur:

--- Quote from: SpacedCowboy on September 01, 2020, 07:02:21 PM ---I guess. Maybe I'm not reading enough into that, it just seemed an odd line to have, if there weren't immediate consequences backing it up.

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It seemed odd to me too.

But I think the point was that a normal person would probably have been totally helpless (blind in the darkness and shocked by the cold) but some kind of Winter Mantle thing "switched on" and Harry could suddenly see in the dark.


--- Quote from: Mira on September 01, 2020, 09:08:14 PM ---Crossed with what? :o

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Well the Fomor have biological warping abilities... Not necessarily a hybrid, but a transformation. Maybe something like a Loup-garou or Hexenwolf transformation, only to a monster-squid rather than a monster-wolf.

Or the kraken might be an actual 'alien', ie a separate sort of ensouled being not derived from humans, maybe even from a very divergent parallel universe where kraken rather than humans are the main mortals.

Yuillegan:
I do like the idea that the Fomor have been transforming mortals into monsters. But tbh I think what happened with the Soul Gaze is explained well enough much earlier in the series. That it isn't exactly sharing souls, but he looked into the core of the being that he was fighting. He even says early on in the series that there are plenty of reasons not to look at monsters in the eye because of all the terrible psychic things that might happen. Although, Jim also says that Soul Gazes only happen during moments of intimacy. Which is curious, because that's a very recent quote. And I wouldn't say that was an intimate moment myself. So perhaps there is something to transforming mortals theory.

I think we will see many more monsters of myth and legend before we are through.

Curious that Dresden was saying Ethniu's name full well knowing that might grab her attention (he clearly learned nothing during Skin Game).

Also, seems interesting to me that he isn't even sure he can beat Ethniu altogether. I suspect he will try and neutralize or steal that Eye with the Athame and get her to pursue him to the shores of Demonreach. From there Alfred will be able to hold her temporarily while he attempts to bind her. Although I suspect it will hurt Harry spiritually. All of that is apparently plan Z though. So what is plan A?

Mira:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on September 01, 2020, 10:47:07 PM ---I will say I was happy with the Murphy of these two chapters.

She's still present and has Harry's back, but she didn't try to leap into the water and fight the kraken or even shoot it. She took an active role, doing things like getting out a flare and lighting it, or giving Freydis a grenade, but she's acting well within her body's limits and not blindly charging in and becoming a liability. I should have had more faith. :)

She seems to be taking over some of the best parts of Butters' role in Dead Beat. She's a mortal, in over her head, but still able to help through grit and competence. And she gets to be the reader-stand-in for much needed world exposition. (Not everyone has been researching the Ethniu myths since Peace Talks came out! And there's going to be a lot more that we don't know.)

Their relationship even felt more real and healthy than in their first chapter in Peace Talks, where it felt like they were always maneuvering through a minefield of prickly topics. Maybe it's just that they put all the small stuff to the side when things get serious, but it was nice to see. (I'm not sure if it was intentional, but on second reading I laughed at how she's now *physically* "lumpier and pointier than the dictates of romance..." where she was like that metaphorically in chapter 5 of Peace Talks.)

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Yes, I'd agree, however don't you think it odd that Murphy couldn't seem to grasp the magnitude of
the danger?  Harry not making a wise ass remark about it sort of got her attention but when Harry tried to relate what the impact will be even if the city survives, her answer is a trite, "things always change?"  I also find it odd at the end of the chapter he says that she and Molly had his back and seems to give Lara no credit when it was she who jumped the lake knife in hand [would of loved it better if it was in her teeth pirate style] to do battle with the monster to save his ass? Even if it was
because if something happened to Harry, Thomas would never get out of jail.

However it does underscore how injured Murphy is, and no, she isn't even in good enough shape to
go along with him like Butters did in Dead Beat.   

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