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vultur:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on September 02, 2020, 02:37:41 AM --- Although, Jim also says that Soul Gazes only happen during moments of intimacy. Which is curious, because that's a very recent quote.
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I believe the quote was that something like that is needed for non-wizard supernaturals (the example was Kincaid and Goodman Grey). Wizards get soulgazes a lot easier.

The scene is sort of parallel with Harry's soulgaze with Ursiel in DM; Harry is attacked by surprise by a big monster and gets an unexpected soulgaze.


--- Quote ---Also, seems interesting to me that he isn't even sure he can beat Ethniu altogether.
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Ethniu is a really major power, greater than Mab. With the Athame and Demonreach, Harry has a chance to harm and/or imprison her, whereas most people simply couldn't do anything effective at all. But she could still kill Harry trivially.


--- Quote ---So what is plan A?

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Good question. To me the obvious one would be a surprise attack while Ethniu is bogged down fighting some of the major powers, Forzare the Athame at her to get some blood then Forzare it back to his hand, then do the binding ritual.

Mira:

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The scene is sort of parallel with Harry's soulgaze with Ursiel in DM; Harry is attacked by surprise by a big monster and gets an unexpected soulgaze.

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Yup, and he gets unexpected insight into what it is really like to play host to a Coin.  It went a long way in helping him resist Lasciel's shadow, because he wouldn't fully buy what she was selling because he didn't want to end up like the poor bugger who was the host.  I don't think it was Ursiel though that he soul gazed, I think it was one of the ones Shiro killed.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Harry thinks he needs to wear Ethnui down ‘to Harry her’ that means physically and emotionally so his will is the stronger. I think this is where Mac comes in, Harry has skirted over Lugh’s father, describing him as a ‘handsome Tuatha’ so is Harry going to go all Larry Fowler over Ethnui? “Ethnui, as a surprise we have in the studio your long estranged husband, who seduced you in prison after a millennia of confinement”.

Physically? there are likely only three weapons on the field which can injure Ethnui the two swords and the Athame. Gungenir is with Odin, and whilst Etri might have Mjolnir, unless Hendricks is Thor, not an option. I doubt even the rune axes of the Valkyries would have much impact. The swords are also most likely to get close to Ethnui, and allow their wielder as to be able to survive the Eye under the protection of the White God.

I also have this idea that Harry gets the eye out and turns it on the Fomor like the head of Medusa, decimating their forces, eventually taking it back to the armoury with the rest of his superweapons. I wonder if Alfred could wield it?

Mira:

--- Quote ---I also have this idea that Harry gets the eye out and turns it on the Fomor like the head of Medusa, decimating their forces, eventually taking it back to the armoury with the rest of his superweapons. I wonder if Alfred could wield it?

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I doubt it,  Alfred is powerful on the island, but he was designed by Merlin to be a guard, and that is all. On the island, he really doesn't need a weapon like the Eye to contain anything, he just does it. Now Harry, if he does bring it back to the armory on the island, as Warden, he might very well be able to wield it, he has that kind of will, but only as a very last resort I think in the BAT.

noblehunter:
Butcher made a point of saying the Winter Knight was dangerous in the cold and the dark but we didn't get to see any real WK mojo. Resisting cold is fine and all but not very interesting.

We know soulgazes are mediated by the recipient, Harry gets images and video but I think Ramirez get music. I think the recipient's frame of reference also affected what they experience. So everyone gets a different version of Harry. That's why the normal people who soulgazed Harry are gibbering over whatever it was that could frighten a kraken. They see the parts of Harry that matter to them.

Though I'm pretty amazed that kraken qualify as people enough to get a soulgaze. Do the rules of magic then apply? It's kind of alarming, to be honest.

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