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Bob's parents.

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Arjan:
But I am sure Lasciel doesn’t know the meaning of love either. What we are looking for is a spiritual entity that can actually love or an entity that for some reason can split of part of its power to enter a mortal which can be taught to love.

And it needs a reason to invest its power in the mortal. Lasciel needed a new host.

vultur:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 24, 2020, 01:26:29 AM --- There are four spirit types discussed in the books.  Shadows, Nemesis, the Archive and Bob.

--- End quote ---

Oh, no, there's lots.

I would say the major categories are:
- Ghosts
- Demons (the kind like Kalshazzak and Binder's minions, not Fallen)
- Spirits of emotions and concepts; the spirits of Rage that Hexenwolves and Lycanthropes bond with, and the Hunger spirits that live within White Court Vampires. Bob is a spirit of Intellect.
- Elemental spirits (overlapping with concepts); Harry references speaking to spirits of water and flame in Changes, and Bob is called an air spirit as well as a spirit of intellect.
- The actual Angels and Fallen, not just their shadows, are arguably spirits (depending on how the soul/spirit distinction works).

Ulsharavas (from DM) is a prophetic spirit allied to the Loa. The Loa themselves might be spirits, and so might various gods and other beings from different beliefs and mythologies around the world.

Yuillegan:
Indeed, essentially a spirit is an entity who is more in the spirit world than the mortal (but not necessarily physical) world. I think a good rule of thumb is to ask "could the entity cross a threshold without an invitation, and if so, how much of it's power would it leave behind?" and you can work it out. Ghosts, demons etc wouldn't be able to cross a threshold without an invitation, but White Court Vampires can. Black Court are a curious problem but that might be a Will thing as much as anything...although it could also be that the entity in the drivers seat of the meat suit that has the issue (assuming that is what happens with the Black Court).

But we are getting away from the point.

Bob's parents need an act of Love to create him. Which rules out most of the truly alien beings. I don't think Mab can feel love, but I do think that the being inside her mantle can (and indeed did, when she was merely mortal).

So the parings we have so far are:
1. Mab and Merlin (unlikely as he is dead and we haven't met him)
2. Merlin and Demonreach (unlikely due to the love requirement)
3. Leah and Eb
4. Lara and Eb
5. Mab (mortal - Morgana?) and Vadderung
6. Mab and Kemmler (as Michael's father...somehow)
7. Rashid and Mab
8. Tam Lin and Mab

I also might guess that the Archive (several generations back) and a mortal.

The fact both of his parents have been met rules out lots of individuals though. I think Summer and Winter are most likely something to do with the origin (Bob is gold like Summer and Evil Bob is cold and blue like Winter) but beyond that I am stumped.

ClintACK:
Eb's not old enough, unless you've got him doing major Merlin-level time traveling to get it done.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Eb is too young, Bob is nearly 700 years older than Eb, same with Kemmler, and we haven’t met Kemmler, unless he is the British Prisoner, but Demonreach appears to have been without a Warden longer than his last death.

I have Lea and Tam Lin with Tam Lin as the British Prisoner. Mab and Tam Lin is a possibility but this may be before Mab became Queen, and I am not sure the Lady’s Mantle would allow this. Mab appears first in literature and not myth, Romeo and Juliet, the Tam Lin legend pre-dates this considerably. The Leanansidhe myth also pre-dates the first use of the name Mab. Mab was riding with William the Conqueror around the time Bob was born, presumably at this point she was the Lady if she was mortal and shacked up with Merlin several centuries earlier.

We know from the Tam Lin myth how he escaped from being Winter Knight, what myth doesn’t tell is why or how he became the Winter Knight other than he fell from his horse and was captured by the Queen. Mab parallels him to Harry, what if he had to make a similar bargain? He became Winter Knight to escape Lea’s attentions. Originally Harry owed Lea, his debt was bought out by Mab who kept dangling the Mantle until Harry wasn’t in a position to say no. Harry may not be the first time Lea and the Winter Queen have played such a game.

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