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Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on August 25, 2020, 04:55:34 AM ---Eb's not old enough, unless you've got him doing major Merlin-level time traveling to get it done.

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Yeah any theory involving Eb or Kemmler involves a certain amount of Time Travel.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 25, 2020, 05:11:01 AM ---Eb is too young, Bob is nearly 700 years older than Eb, same with Kemmler, and we haven’t met Kemmler, unless he is the British Prisoner, but Demonreach appears to have been without a Warden longer than his last death.

I have Lea and Tam Lin with Tam Lin as the British Prisoner. Mab and Tam Lin is a possibility but this may be before Mab became Queen, and I am not sure the Lady’s Mantle would allow this. Mab appears first in literature and not myth, Romeo and Juliet, the Tam Lin legend pre-dates this considerably. The Leanansidhe myth also pre-dates the first use of the name Mab. Mab was riding with William the Conqueror around the time Bob was born, presumably at this point she was the Lady if she was mortal and shacked up with Merlin several centuries earlier.

We know from the Tam Lin myth how he escaped from being Winter Knight, what myth doesn’t tell is why or how he became the Winter Knight other than he fell from his horse and was captured by the Queen. Mab parallels him to Harry, what if he had to make a similar bargain? He became Winter Knight to escape Lea’s attentions. Originally Harry owed Lea, his debt was bought out by Mab who kept dangling the Mantle until Harry wasn’t in a position to say no. Harry may not be the first time Lea and the Winter Queen have played such a game.

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Tam Lin is Scottish though. The accents are very different. I heard Jim read out the part in Cold Days where Harry encounters the British prisoner and the accent is clearly meant to be rather Windsor (that is, royal). So I don't think it's likely he is the British prisoner. Now, if Tam Lin were Mac or something I could see it being him.

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 23, 2020, 07:56:27 PM ---Love is additive not subtractive in the Dresden universe, the capacity to love made Lash greater not less. I presume the same applies with a muse, Lea has probably been powering up herself this way for centuries, though I suspect she has been forbidden by Mab in recent years to avoid damaging the balance between the Courts. She never got busy with Harry. This is why she was pleased with the Athame, more power without breaking her word to Mab. Lea is more powerful than the Winter Lady, second only to Mab, the gift was to disturb that balance of power in the Court.

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true, but I keep coming back to cowl and wondering what would happen if he hadn't done this or that thing.. without the Athemes presence Mab would never have gotten her hooks in Harry, SK wouldn't have had him to stop Aurora, Maeve not getting Nfected means Molly would never have become WL, ect. Perhaps he's changing things for the better and we just don't realize it from our perspective..

Conspiracy Theorist:
The British Prisoner in Harry’s mind is like the rest of the inmates, a villain and what we get is a telepathic rather than actual voice, so processed by Harry’s mind he ascribes it a British accent. He has done the same with the Outsiders. Clearly Harry has watched too many films where the villain is a British Actor.

Yuillegan:
Good enough in-universe reason, Conspiracy Theorist.

However, the fact is that the author read it out in a British voice. Now Jim doesn't always do his homework but when it comes to Celtic Mythology the guy goes all out. We always have to consider these things from a Doylist perspective. He always describes how Ebeneezer's Scottish burr returns when he gets angry. Jim is aware and considerate of the differences. Believe me, if he wanted him to be Scottish he would have been called the Scottish prisoner.

Maybe another character in disguise is Tam Lin though. We can't rule that out yet.

The_Sibelis:
Doesn't HHWBH have an English accent in Harry's flashback in GS too? 🤔

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