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toodeep:
My question is, who were/are Bob's parents?  A being is born with some of the knowledge of its parents, and I would assume the parents have to at least sort of like each other for this level of intimacy to work.

We believe the Bob goes back to the middle ages.  He also seemed to favor winter as his main source of connections, so I kind of assume one of his parents is winter related.  I have a hard time believing that what knowledge the parents pass on to the child can be well controlled, so it seems unlikely someone with a vast amount of powerful secrets (like Mab) would risk creating something like Bob.  If he was older I would wonder if he could be tied into Merlin and/or Odin, but he's too young (I think) to be tied in to Merlin or into Odin as a full fledge god.  I wonder if he could be a cheap Odin-imitation of what Zeus did with Athena.  I really want to learn who Athena's mom is in the Greek god book...

vultur:

--- Quote from: toodeep on August 28, 2020, 06:55:28 PM ---
  If he was older I would wonder if he could be tied into Merlin and/or Odin, but he's too young (I think) to be tied in to Merlin or into Odin as a full fledge god.
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His origin could be associated with Odin's transition from being a full god to a "mostly retired god". IMO that probably lined up with the Christianization of Scandinavia... which is not too far off from Battle of Hastings era so could be associated with the transition of the Gates to Winter (from the Aesir?)

This might even be part of the reason why Odin has the Kringle Mantle. Given that Kringle is "Winter but Wyldfae", he can keep "in touch" without being directly involved.


--- Quote --- I wonder if he could be a cheap Odin-imitation of what Zeus did with Athena.  I really want to learn who Athena's mom is in the Greek god book...

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Well, in mythology, when she has a mother at all, it's Metis. (A Titan of wisdom or cleverness, described by Hesiod as Zeus' first wife. Zeus swallowed Metis while Metis was transformed into a fly, and Athena was born out of Zeus' head.)

Definitely a sort of parallel to Harry and Lash...

EDIT: fixed unfinished sentence

Mira:

--- Quote ---Definitely a sort of parallel to Harry and Lash...
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Bonea was born out of Harry's head, not Lash.

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 27, 2020, 03:55:22 AM ---
Uriel has always interfered with mankind, under orders of course, after all he is the Almighty's wet-works archangel..  I mean if you go and kill off the male first born of all the Egyptians, I don't what else you could call it but interference.

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I have a pet theory TWG came down as TWC and when he died he got a different position based in his deeds in life. Since TWC basically died to give us choice, his new job is enabling choice.. ever since he showed up as Jake the Janitor... Whose clearly based on God in Bruce Almighty,

Conspiracy Theorist:
i think the trinity aspect of the White God is applicable, given other series of threes in the series, Christ was created from the White God to experience humanity, got Nemfected and the crucifixion was a ceremony to allow the removal of Nemesis and the restoration of Christ as part of the White God. It may also have had other implications against the Outsiders and the influence of Nemesis we aren’t aware of yet, the White God works on a lengthy timescale. Uriel is under this a separate entity to the White God,  an Archangel. The whole purpose may be to figure out a cure for another Archangel who Uriel keeps in check.

I do wonder if Hells Bells is Harry invading Hell with Nicodemus to cure Lucifer, foreshadowed by their team up in SG to get the super weapons. Removing Lucifer from the board would be a major blow to the Outsiders permanently, and not just for this cycle, as whilst Uriel checks him, he checks Uriel. I would imagine it as a Dirty Dozen mission, heroes and villains whereas SG was Oceans 11

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