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The_Sibelis:
The guy famous for being born under a star not a starborn!?
Lucifer doesn't work with the outsiders, and neither does Nic. Lucifer balancing things out is a very important part of the metaphysics of the DF, his removal would have dire consequences to the balance, not positive ones.
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 29, 2020, 07:07:46 AM ---i think the trinity aspect of the White God is applicable, given other series of threes in the series, Christ was created from the White God to experience humanity, got Nemfected and the crucifixion was a ceremony to allow the removal of Nemesis and the restoration of Christ as part of the White God. It may also have had other implications against the Outsiders and the influence of Nemesis we aren’t aware of yet, the White God works on a lengthy timescale. Uriel is under this a separate entity to the White God, an Archangel. The whole purpose may be to figure out a cure for another Archangel who Uriel keeps in check.
I do wonder if Hells Bells is Harry invading Hell with Nicodemus to cure Lucifer, foreshadowed by their team up in SG to get the super weapons. Removing Lucifer from the board would be a major blow to the Outsiders permanently, and not just for this cycle, as whilst Uriel checks him, he checks Uriel. I would imagine it as a Dirty Dozen mission, heroes and villains whereas SG was Oceans 11
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Some interesting ideas but there is WOJ saying that Lucifer isn't nemfected and Nemesis has limits. The idea being Nemesis cannot corrupt Archangels. No idea on regular angels though.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 28, 2020, 10:29:21 PM ---Bonea was born out of Harry's head, not Lash.
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Right, I meant the parallel is that Harry had Lash's shadow in his brain as an internal advisor and later gave birth to Bonea.
Whereas Zeus swallowed Metis (who is then presented by Hesiod as becoming Zeus's advisor of sorts, or perhaps his wisdom aspect) and later gave birth to Athena.
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 29, 2020, 04:08:02 AM ---Since TWC basically died to give us choice, his new job is enabling choice.. ever since he showed up as Jake the Janitor... Whose clearly based on God in Bruce Almighty,
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That may be the out-of-story inspiration, but Jake is Uriel, not God.
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 29, 2020, 07:27:48 AM ---The guy famous for being born under a star not a starborn!?
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It sounds good, but the timeline doesn't work. Harry was born within a year or so either way of 1975. 666 x 3 = 1998, so that would be like 24 BC. There's a bit of uncertainty in Jesus' birthdate, but it's like 1 AD-6 BC at the broadest.
And yeah, no Nemfected Lucifer. Nemesis doesn't operate on that level.
I don't think Nemesis is relevant to the Heaven/Hell conflict at all, which operates across all universes. Nemesis is an Outsider agent in one particular universe.
(I think Nemesis is a lot less powerful than we assume, actually. It jumped from Lea to Maeve, not Mab, when co-opting Mab would have meant victory. And Lea was able to meaningfully resist, though she needed Mab to be cured.)
The_Sibelis:
@Vulture, apparently you don't get it, I'm directly implying, hell outright stating my belief Uriel is TWG, disagreeing won't change my opinion I assure you.
And we can throw the silly starborn timeline out the window. I just theorized, like right here, just to put forth an alternative headcanon than on relying on a cycle we still know practically nothing about, Maggie and Malcolm actually traveled forward in time at one point so although we know Harry's physical age we don't know the year he was really born. This is why Malcolm is a stage magician, he comes from an era it was still in Vogue.
morriswalters:
There is nothing to indicate that Malcolm time traveled is there? And exactly what does the story get out of Uriel being anything other than an Archangel? Assuming this Starborn thing means anything, the only time travel needed could be had simply by moving in and out of the Never Never. A fact which given what we know of her, is something she would have known how to do.
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