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a clue about harry's status *peace talks spoilers*

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Conspiracy Theorist:
I think he not only pulled everyone chestnuts out of the fire, I think he finally got one over on Mab as well. Her manipulations are to strengthen the Accords, and make Harry her pet monster by having him the new Black staff of the White Council, I think Harry uses his knowledge gained from Mother Summer and returns the Black Staff to Mother Winter, trumping Mab on this point and gaining a favour from Mother Winter, a favour which of course could affect and bind Mab. This is why Mab is playing nice in Christmas Eve. It may give Harry the power to relinquish the Winter Knight Mantle in the future, his daily fight against it is finite.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 08, 2020, 11:48:49 PM ---I think he not only pulled everyone chestnuts out of the fire, I think he finally got one over on Mab as well. Her manipulations are to strengthen the Accords, and make Harry her pet monster by having him the new Black staff of the White Council, I think Harry uses his knowledge gained from Mother Summer and returns the Black Staff to Mother Winter, trumping Mab on this point and gaining a favour from Mother Winter, a favour which of course could affect and bind Mab. This is why Mab is playing nice in Christmas Eve. It may give Harry the power to relinquish the Winter Knight Mantle in the future, his daily fight against it is finite.

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No, I actually think Mab was being sincere at Christmas and not at her usual manipulations, which is  even more scary I think.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 09, 2020, 12:03:17 AM ---No, I actually think Mab was being sincere at Christmas and not at her usual manipulations, which is  even more scary I think.

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I think there is old woj that implies that their working relationship will gradually improve over time. I see no reason not to take her at her word when she talks about obligations to her vassal. I think it is very important that Harry gets a better idea about what those obligations are so of course he won’t.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Arjan on August 09, 2020, 04:40:38 AM ---I think there is old woj that implies that their working relationship will gradually improve over time. I see no reason not to take her at her word when she talks about obligations to her vassal. I think it is very important that Harry gets a better idea about what those obligations are so of course he won’t.

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I think it will come down to respect.  Mab has claimed a degree of respect for Harry because of his defiance of her, but she doesn't really like it.  Lets not forget it has been a few hundred years or more since she truly has had a Knight that has not only earned her respect, but that she truly respects.  At some point Harry will have to begin to trust Mab and what her true goals are.  Only
then will she take off his leash and he begin to function as a star born should.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Harry needs to get something over Mab to make it more of a partnership.

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