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If Not Mab, Could Nic Be Behind What Thomas Did?

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ClintACK:

--- Quote from: vultur on August 12, 2020, 01:18:24 AM ---Oh, I agree. But (as you point out with the hairdressing) Thomas can feed without much impact "as is". So while Thomas *could* change to a different emotion, I'm not sure there would be any point.
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The point would be that he could touch the woman he loves. Their True Love wouldn't burn him, apparently, if he turned his Hunger to feeding on something other than lust.

Mira:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on August 12, 2020, 01:52:48 AM ---The point would be that he could touch the woman he loves. Their True Love wouldn't burn him, apparently, if he turned his Hunger to feeding on something other than lust.

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  It is a debate that has been on these boards for years, and frankly never made much sense to me.
That is, sex with another however casual or even supposedly rape cancels the true love protection.  Thomas and Justine are just as much in love as they ever were, but because she had sex with that woman and Thomas feeds on another[sex] the protection is kaput..  Which up until she found herself pregnant and the embryo Hunger inside her embryo child began to feed off of her Justine was perfectly fine with, as was Thomas.  Which is all ironic in the first place, because both were unfaithful so they could physically express the true love they have for one another without Thomas becoming a french fry..

--- Quote ---Now, arguably, if he changed to something else he wouldn't accidentally feed on Justine via touch, but I don't know if that would work... I don't think he'd lose the ability to feed on lust, and Thomas says his Hunger is specifically attracted to Justine (he can touch other people with True Love protection without being burned, after all...)
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No, he cannot as I understand it.  He cannot touch anyone with True Love protection.  However real True Love is rare I think.  It must have been awkward in the beauty parlor if one of his clients was protected by True Love, then a pair of gloves was in order and the lady benefited from his hair dressing skills.

vultur:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 12, 2020, 04:09:51 AM ---No, he cannot as I understand it.  He cannot touch anyone with True Love protection.

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He absolutely can... Harry had True Love protection in BR, DB, PG, and WN. Thomas could touch Harry just fine without burning.

In general, True Love only burns a Raith if they try to Feed on a protected person or if they touch a symbol/token of True Love.

It's made very clear in TC. Madeline is totally consumed by her Hunger so she's always burned. Thomas is specifically always burned by Justine because his Hunger is drawn to her; he subconsciously/automatically tries to feed whenever they touch.

At the end of WN (when Lara uses her emotion-powers to boost Harry's shield-spell) she only gets burned once she loses control a bit and starts feeding.

Mira:

--- Quote ---He absolutely can... Harry had True Love protection in BR, DB, PG, and WN. Thomas could touch Harry just fine without burning.
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  However he wasn't trying to feed was he?  However Thomas could not touch Justine, and at the time he wasn't trying feed on her, but that kind of contradicts Blood Rites when Thomas was hurt so bad and Raith threw her in to feed him and he did, almost until death.

ClintACK:
If I recall correctly, that feeding was when Thomas and Justine's relationship made the jump to True Love.

It was Justine being willing to die to save him, and Thomas being willing to die rather than kill her.

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