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If Not Mab, Could Nic Be Behind What Thomas Did?
Mira:
I am still mostly on board with the idea that it was Mab who manipulated Thomas for her own four dimensional chess reasons in the greater game. Then another thought came to me, if not Mab,who? One logical candidate for that is Nic. He lost a lot of prestige and power at the end of Skin Game. Damn straight, he wants it back, and he wants revenge. He hosts Andruiel who knows almost everything that is going on, so Nic would know about the dilemma that Thomas and Justine face with her pregnancy. He also has the Grail, with that he could possibly if not heal outright, at least keep the Hunger from eating Justine. While Thomas might know better than to accept a coin, he might agree to blow up the peace talks by an assassination attempt in exchange for keeping Justine safe. Nic gets his revenge against Mab and Harry. He may even think in a perverse way, if he uses the Grail to heal Chicago in the aftermath, he will gain lots of influence and power. He becomes a hero that even Michael would have a hard time faulting, thus putting him in the catbird seat once again.
Conspiracy Theorist:
The Shroud is the healer, the Grail is a purifier, in Arthurian Lore whilst many powerful knights sought the Grail, only the pure virgin Galahad was able to obtain it. Paging Mr Carlos Ramirez.
I think Harry will at some point for the first time take the fight to Nicky ending the Denarians and finding out vital info as to the Fall. He will need the Grail for part of a larger ritual (cleansing of Nemesis) but one one the best person to be able to use the grail will Carlos and/or Molly. Imagine a spell so large it requires 5 wizards to anchor it each with affinities to each of the objects. As a weapon Harry would have the Athame, Carlos the Grail, Listens to Wind the Shroud, leaving the Crown of Thorns and Placard to others. If I am right and the Crown is Thorn manacles for a god, and the Placard a communicator (both to the person afflicted and the world), you would need Wizards with affinities in those areas, GateKeeper and the Merlin perhaps? This could kill the older participants.
Arjan:
Thomas created this problem himself. He was running low and starving his hunger again. Justine must have had true love protection since the conception so when Thomas lost control the demon could not fed on her and became even more crazy and ran out of control to the nearest food source it remembered, the svartalf embassy.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 07, 2020, 05:20:11 PM ---Thomas created this problem himself. He was running low and starving his hunger again. Justine must have had true love protection since the conception so when Thomas lost control the demon could not fed on her and became even more crazy and ran out of control to the nearest food source it remembered, the svartalf embassy.
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1] How do you figure Justine had true love protection since the conception? She had sex with another so her and Thomas could have sex, somehow she conceived, if she still had true love
protection, she wouldn't be in any danger from the embyro Hunger, in fact her placenta should burn it out.. However she has no protection, she lost that in Ghost Story.
I think you are confused, it isn't Thomas' demon Hunger that is feeding on her, it is their baby's Hunger demon.. Unless because Thomas is half non vamp, and Justine is all vanilla human, their child had no Hunger demon. If that is the case, poor Thomas put himself through a lot for nothing.
vultur:
I wouldn't necessarily assume True Love protection would make the pregnancy safe for Justine. It *could*, but it's not guaranteed.
True Love isn't a bane to all Whampires and the "type" may not be genetic (Madrigal Raith fed on fear). There's a WOJ suggesting the division in what Whampires feed on is largely political/cultural.
So maybe you would need True Love, True Courage, and True Hope to be protected from an incipient, not-yet-specialized Hunger.
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