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Mab saw the sucker punch coming. Her tricks are functioning flawlessly.

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Conspiracy Theorist:
Nobody likes the Ghouls, they are only convenient muscle.

Thomas has a moderate magical talent and is a venator, he could summon Mab himself if he wanted .

Mira:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 05, 2020, 08:49:36 AM ---Nobody likes the Ghouls, they are only convenient muscle.

Thomas has a moderate magical talent and is a venator, he could summon Mab himself if he wanted .

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  I don't think he could, his talent is very limited.  However Mab knows what is going on in the world, she doesn't have to be summoned.  We saw that in Summer Knight, she just showed up at Harry's office, she wasn't summoned.  She is looking at the whole chess board at all times and has to stay ten moves ahead of everyone else to survive and to keep the world safe.  She saw the predicament that Thomas and Justine was in and used it to her advantage by honoring favors to Lara, who in turn, now is obligated to keep Harry safe because the fate of Thomas is in his hands..

Conspiracy Theorist:
As a Venator Thomas knows all about summoning rituals and how to disrupt them.

Even Harry in Peace Talks admits Thomas has a minor gift, and Winter lies closest to the mortal world in the Never Never, so yes he should be able to summon Mab. Containing her is probably beyond him though.

The problem with the whole Mab did it scenario is that for Thomas to be clear, Etri has to be convinced that Thomas was a dupe, an agent and not the principle, as Etri would seek the full punishment against the principal (this was discussed in Bombshells by Etri himself). Therefore Eb setting off a White Court / Swaertalf War or Evanna seeking death by Etri to punish Thomas for cutting her off/seeking Guest Right /Asylum for him, Justine and the Baby tend to be more likely narratives. Mab won’t undermine her Accords, even she knows better than to get between Harry and his family, this is the type of thing she needs Harry for because it is what he does best. She doesn’t want her best weapon to turn against her, especially as he is now a significant threat to her should he decide to be.

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 05, 2020, 03:03:56 PM ---As a Venator Thomas knows all about summoning rituals and how to disrupt them.

Even Harry in Peace Talks admits Thomas has a minor gift, and Winter lies closest to the mortal world in the Never Never, so yes he should be able to summon Mab. Containing her is probably beyond him though.

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Good point.  Of course; if Mab believed she had a good enough reason to do so, she could simply appear to Thomas whenever she wanted to.  As we saw with Cat Sith, Mab could enter Thomas and Justine's apartment from the nevernever as long as her intentions were peaceful.  If something like that happened; while Justine was out, it would be because Mab was offering Thomas a deal of some sort. 


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 05, 2020, 03:03:56 PM ---The problem with the whole Mab did it scenario is that for Thomas to be clear, Etri has to be convinced that Thomas was a dupe, an agent and not the principle, as Etri would seek the full punishment against the principal (this was discussed in Bombshells by Etri himself). Therefore Eb setting off a White Court / Swaertalf War or Evanna seeking death by Etri to punish Thomas for cutting her off/seeking Guest Right /Asylum for him, Justine and the Baby tend to be more likely narratives. Mab won’t undermine her Accords, even she knows better than to get between Harry and his family, this is the type of thing she needs Harry for because it is what he does best. She doesn’t want her best weapon to turn against her, especially as he is now a significant threat to her should he decide to be.

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I've been thinking about this and maybe there's another way.  Relations with the fae are all about balance; either maintaining it or regaining it.  It's possible to tell Etri that Thomas was pressured by a third party to do what he did, but without proof it's just a story.  However, what if Thomas did something to balance the scales?  He took a swartalf life, but saved a swartalf life (or more than one).  I remember that Ebenezer credited Michael with saving his life and a group of trainees from Outsiders, near the end of Turn Coat.  What if a new Knight of the Cross saved Mr. Etri's life; and maybe Evanna's as well, from a nasty bunch of Outsiders?  It could be the exact thing needed to resolve the situation in a positive manner.

Conspiracy Theorist:
I kind of think in that instance a Swartalf would both punish and honour, posthumously.

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