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Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 06, 2020, 12:42:17 PM ---  Ideally, yes, but that isn't always the case...  Looking at it from the Fomor point of view, why would they attack when the timing would make them the most vulnerable to being stopped? The table also switches when winter turns to spring, so it doesn't have to be always Halloween..   Then there is the Summer Solstice, that might even be more significant..

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Because how these things work. When you are at your most vulnerable your enemies are at their most vulnerable too and you can achieve something.

vultur:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 06, 2020, 10:47:47 AM --- But does Battle Ground take place on Halloween?
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No, it's going to be immediately after PT... it was originally intended to be the second part of PT.


--- Quote --- Can immortals only be taken out by mortals only on Halloween?
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Only on a conjunction; Halloween is one, but not the only one. The Stone Table Battlefield is another, at least for Fae immortals (as Bob explains to Harry in CD - that's why Harry, Toot-toot, and the other pixies could kill Aurora in SK).


--- Quote ---What happened before Halloween was invented?
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Bob has mentioned that the "physics" of magic change over time. The conjunctions were likely different at one time.


--- Quote ---Zeus took out Titans back in the day before All Hallows Eve was invented.
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The Titans were arguably imprisoned rather than killed, though since Tartarus is also an "afterlife" location, it's not entirely clear.

(Although I think Tartarus as prison of the Titans is an earlier concept than Tartarus as a 'general' hellish afterlife.)


--- Quote ---So can immortals take out other immortals any time they want?
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I don't think so, in general. Bob in CD says that Mab and Titania created the Stone Table Battlefield specifically as a place immortals can die, so balances of power can change in Faerie.

Although CD does say that Titania could pull Mab into oblivion with her... I don't know. Maybe Mab and Titania coming into direct opposition is considered a conjunction? Or actually "automatically" summons the battlefield?


--- Quote from: Arjan on August 06, 2020, 02:31:24 PM ---Because how these things work. When you are at your most vulnerable your enemies are at their most vulnerable too and you can achieve something.

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Yeah. Bob says that on Halloween "the locked stasis of immortality" becomes malleable. That's when they can increase the power of their mantles etc. Normally they can't die but also can't grow.

BrainFireBob:
I still like my theory that starborn are walking conjunction points.

Also, being unable to be killed doesn't mean your mantle can't be taken- I rather think this is what the Stone Table actually does.

Conspiracy Theorist:
The Stone Table most likely was designed by all six Faerie Queens to allow for the apportionment of power between them in instances where this was needed other than Halloween.

I suspect only six immortals can die at that place because the Mantles were set up that way. It’s a backdoor into the the whole immortality thing for those six built into the Mantles. It also allow power to be added to both Sumer and Winter if timed correctly.

The_Sibelis:
Technically the table unmakes the mantle and just gives the pure energy. Or unmakes the immortal. That's why I think Mab made the current WK mantle specifically molded to Harry.
I'm not sure I'd believe the Fae actually made the stone table itself. Seems older, bigger than they are... I've always thought it was the Earth's hearthstone as it were... The stone part of stars and stones...

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