The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
[PT Spoilers] Why Wait?
TrueMonk:
If Ethnui was powerful enough not to need it, why the big setup to land the suckerpunch on Mab? I mean, in real life terms kicking someone who does not see it untill just before it connects is pretty hard.
If a good karate guy sneaked (out of my class) sneaked up to me (who knows just a little karate) under a veil and kicked me I would not be standing up after he had done a bit of talking. Maybe I would never stand up again if he kicked me in the head.
My point being that she is strong enough to suckerpunch Mab. Which is shockingly strong, no doubt about it. But I think some people read too much into it.
vultur:
--- Quote from: TrueMonk on August 04, 2020, 10:18:29 PM ---If Ethnui was powerful enough not to need it, why the big setup to land the suckerpunch on Mab?
--- End quote ---
Because the goal wasn't to beat Mab in a fight, it was to break down the Accords by proving in front of everyone that Mab was incapable of defending the Accords.
Attacking Mab would be pointless in itself. She's immortal, and even if Ethniu could corner her on Halloween or at some other conjunction, she'd just be replaced (by Molly).
Everybody had to be watching or there would be no point.
--- Quote from: Mira on August 04, 2020, 03:00:01 PM ---Otherwise why didn't they have the battle right then and there? Take out the big three and it's all over, oh yeah, no Battle Ground..
--- End quote ---
I don't think it really works that way. It's not Halloween, so a fight between Ethniu, Mab, and Odin now would be inconclusive since they are all Immortals. (Not sure about Ferrovax; did Michael kill Siriothrax at a conjunction? It definitely seems like his Mantle didn't pass on and create a new Dragon, so maybe the Dragons are a different kind of thing, not Immortals in the same sense.)
The real threat to Ethniu isn't any of the great powers, it's Harry, because of Demonreach. Imprisoning an Immortal is the only way to really get rid of them.
Mira:
But does Battle Ground take place on Halloween? Can immortals only be taken out by mortals only on Halloween? What happened before Halloween was invented? Zeus took out Titans back in the day before All Hallows Eve was invented. So can immortals take out other immortals any time they want?
Technically if she can be killed on Halloween, Mab isn't immortal.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 06, 2020, 10:47:47 AM --- But does Battle Ground take place on Halloween? Can immortals only be taken out by mortals only on Halloween? What happened before Halloween was invented?
--- End quote ---
Before Halloween there was Samhain and that tradition was already old when the Christians took it over. https://www.history.com/topics/halloween/history-of-halloween
It is about the change of the seasons so that means it is probably very ancient and important for agricultural societies.
--- Quote ---Zeus took out Titans back in the day before All Hallows Eve was invented. So can immortals take out other immortals any time they want?
Technically if she can be killed on Halloween, Mab isn't immortal.
--- End quote ---
There is also the stone table. We know it works on Halloween but other locations in time and space are possible.
In Changes the sacrifice of Maggie had to take place on a precise place and time. That could very well have made the red king more vulnerable.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 06, 2020, 11:47:40 AM ---Before Halloween there was Samhain and that tradition was already old when the Christians took it over. https://www.history.com/topics/halloween/history-of-halloween
It is about the change of the seasons so that means it is probably very ancient and important for agricultural societies.There is also the stone table. We know it works on Halloween but other locations in time and space are possible.
In Changes the sacrifice of Maggie had to take place on a precise place and time. That could very well have made the red king more vulnerable.
--- End quote ---
Ideally, yes, but that isn't always the case... Looking at it from the Fomor point of view, why would they attack when the timing would make them the most vulnerable to being stopped? The table also switches when winter turns to spring, so it doesn't have to be always Halloween.. Then there is the Summer Solstice, that might even be more significant..
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version