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vultur:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 01, 2020, 04:36:49 AM ---I disagree, both are from outside reality,
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I really don't think the corruption of warlocks is from outside reality. I think it's just a consequence of human nature and the nature of magic. We're told over and over that magic comes from who and what you are, that you have to really fundamentally believe that something should happen before you can make it happen with magic.

So using dark magic draws on the darker aspects of a wizard's nature, and strengthens them. They couldn't do it in the first place if those darker aspects weren't there, and doing it reinforces those aspects more and more, makes the darker aspects of their nature more and more dominant.

I also think the White Council tends to overstate the degree to which warlocks 'inevitably' become corrupted. Some clearly do, but...

Harry doesn't seem to get the same kind of dark-magic-taint-urges as he did in the early books. Maybe the Winter Mantle has just overridden that, but it wasn't really a thing in WN/SmF/TC - once Lash stopped being evil but before he took up the Mantle - either.

And Molly was using mind magic quite a bit, and her POV in Bombshells doesn't seem warped by it. She's damaged in other ways, but it seems more PTSD and grief and guilt type stuff, not "I'm going to start controlling everyone's mind for my benefit" stuff.


--- Quote ---The way the feeling is described in book when touched upon, being greasy, cold, ect. If magic is part of creation, then it's opposing force is an element of destruction, it isn't natural to reality, has to come from somewhere.
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Eh, I think there's a couple of different kinds of dark magic.

Harry in DB talks about how Cowl's magic doesn't feel like other dark magic he's encountered. He also talks in the same book about how necromancers and vampires draw from some kind of "death power" that's different from the "life power" Harry and other normal wizards use.

The_Sibelis:
That doesn't entirely explain why they go batshet crazy, or them being replaced by inhuman entities which isn't the same.normal wizards don't get effected by using regular magic to become more likely to use magic after all? They don't suddenly become paragon's of virtue in their old age..
And Harry has had mouse awhile, He Who Licks Away Dark Magic corruption.
Molly hasn't used free will, and ergo cosmic law violating magic in quite awhile.. which do you refer to here? She used it like a fae when the rag lady, she cast illusions into minds but didn't make them do anything, they reacted to what they saw. Same as earlier descriptions of far making you run into traffic and the like.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Free will, it’s the one thing many of the major entities don’t have, that’s why we have MM we see Destroyery Harry, our Harry is Savoury*Harry.

Either this creates a parallel world scenario in which no-one knows until the last minute whether they are in Destoyer or Saviour world. We have to presume there are dead branches where the Starborn didn’t stand against the Outsiders and that world was Destroyed to prevent them coming into that reality, cleansed of mortal life.

The other option is that time travel creates the parallel worlds, a Starborn seeking to revise their decision and perhaps choose the better branch to live on.

*why do you think Mouse likes the taste so much?

Mira:

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*why do you think Mouse likes the taste so much?
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They are crunchy... 8)

Conspiracy Theorist:
Well his hand was....

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