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morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Smaug with OCD on July 30, 2020, 03:38:34 AM ---I've seen several posts that claim Mirror Mirror will come directly after Battle Grounds. And, given what is implied to happen in the next book I can't help but feel the timing is extremely poor. If magic is revealed to mortals, wouldn't it be better to see the implications of that, rather than the parallel reality where Dresden made a different Choice?

Is it true that Mirror Mirror is next? Why the... I don't want to use the word distraction, but it seems appropriate while unaware of the finer details...? Thoughts?

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It doesn't matter.  It can take place in zero time.  He gets plucked and returns in a moment, so no time passes here.  But most books only span a couple of days anyway. The bigger problem is that time is flying in the real world and crawling in the Dresden Files.  His current event fetish is going to bite him.  And there are some hints that he is retconning that.  He refers to Notre Dame.
--- Quote ---called Notre-Dame to mind. You know, before the fire.

Butcher, Jim. Peace Talks (Dresden Files) (p. 126). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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So he's already time traveling.

Conspiracy Theorist:
There is one thing exposing the Accorded powers them having lost which is Ethnui’s plan, but for the Accorded Nations to be exposed as the protectors of mortalkind is quite different, it would be to engage the mortal police and military as partners, not antagonists. Harry has lived openly as a wizard aiding CPD, he is merely taking what he does to a much greater level. It would explain why Mab picked up the bills.

If you look at Jury Duty the judge knew about the supernatural shenanigans. She just wouldn’t acknowledge this officially. That’s the very least which will happen.

I suspect the placard can be used to communicate to the citizenry to stay in their homes and take other steps to mitigate the loss of life, but explaining the message is going to be very difficult. The Placard can provably do what the Merlin did, in Turncoat but for the entire City, allowing direction to forces, warning citizen, coordinating attacks.

If you are familiar with the Peter Grant novels, that may be how things go, the authorities accept the supernatural but don’t like it, but do allow the Folly (equivalent of SI) a pretty much free range so long as they follow procedure, keep the paperwork up to date, and at least try to keep the magical property damage to a minimum. They don’t advertise the supernatural, they just get on with the job.

ClintACK:
Where are you getting the idea that the placard is a communication device?

Is there a WoJ or something in the text, or something in the pop culture or medieval lore about that?

Conspiracy Theorist:
It’s a placard, placards are used to communicate things such as “Jesus Christ, King of the Jews” and all mortal communications are down.

We know the function of the Athame, and we know enough about the Shroud and the grail to ascertain functions of resurrection and purification, that is established lore.

The Crown of Thorns I suspect are Thorn Manacles for a god, Nicky is supposed to have created thorn manacles for practioners and he dates from that period.

That leaves the placard, all we know is that it announced a message the world over which has held for two millennia, sweeping away worship of a host of other gods. Not powerful at all.

If you had a major Nemfected entity you wanted to contain, cure and anounce the cure of to the world those five objects plus three nails are what you need to do the job. The other four objects nullified Nemesis victory, the Placard turned it into a defeat.

vultur:
I really don't think this has anything to do with Nemesis - especially if you're suggesting they were originally used to cure Christ from Nemfection. I'm pretty sure that there's a WOJ that Archangels are far too powerful to be Nemfected, so...

I think Nemesis is more of an Outsider weapon against the Fae. There are hints that it can infect non-Fae, but all the definitely Nemfected beings in the books so far have been Fae (Aurora, Lea, Cat Sith, Maeve). I doubt Nemesis has any relevance to the Heaven/Angels/Knights of the Cross vs. Hell/Fallen/Denarians side of things.

The placard might be used for communication, but it could also be tied to judgment/trial/punishment... which would fit Harry imprisoning a Titan.

Or Harry might be using it more as a power source, or to "reinforce"/strengthen the binding the way he used various items in the circle to summon/bind the Erlking in DB. (The specific forms of the items might be less relevant than their connection to the Crucifixion; there isn't really an obvious connection between nails and a Sword. Even the reference to the spearhead as an 'Athame' is a bit odd; I would expect it to be used as a weapon, but an athame is typically a ritual instrument, not a weapon.)

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