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666 years and what follows - The Cycle

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Conspiracy Theorist:
Your cast of possible Starborn doesn’t include Etienne the Enchanter, who was Bob’s first master and made the sanctum he lives in , and who lived in the Middle Ages making him a candidate for 1309 and would give Bob handy info on the Starborn Schtick (seriously someone must have messed with Harry’s mind not to make him inquire about this) which would be very useful for Justin if he was hunting Starborn.

morriswalters:
Observations of the night sky with fairly primitives tools can give some fairly exact times, and Eb owns a telescope.  Maybe some kind of planetary or stellar alignment thing or a supernova.

jb3435:
1 thing you all need to consider that was kinda mentioned about the Romans balancing their calendar, and that is that the calendars have changed over time. Currently there is the world-wide New Year and the Chinese New Year just to name one example. Its not as simple to take 2020 and subtract 2000 years and get year 20. Yeah it'll probably be close, but not exact so that could account for some of the minor errors.

vultur:

--- Quote from: jb3435 on July 31, 2020, 06:13:04 AM ---1 thing you all need to consider that was kinda mentioned about the Romans balancing their calendar, and that is that the calendars have changed over time.

--- End quote ---

Sure, but not nearly enough to account for a 20 year gap. Especially not in the last 2000 years - the Julian calendar was instituted by Julius Caesar and I think even in Russia (one of the last to change to the Gregorian calendar) it was less than a month change.

So that's still not going to allow for Jesus to be Starborn.

I don't really think that makes sense anyway honestly. I think the Defenders of Reality* vs Outsiders conflict is kind of operating on a different level from the Heaven vs Hell conflict, and Starborn are basically part of the former, not the latter.

*currently that's Winter (with a little help from the White Council in the form of the Gatekeeper), but it has been different beings in the past...

I mean, Uriel is many orders of magnitude stronger than Mab, he could destroy galaxies. If it was part of his job, he could just vaporize the entire Outsider army beyond the Gates with a thought, no Winter needed.... but that's not his job. His job is about Souls/Free Will and the whole spectrum of the multiverse, the Faerie are more about Reality (and Nature) of a specific universe.

Conspiracy Theorist:
It is clear there are multiple long term conflicts which are ongoing, the Outsiders, Heaven v Hell and the Oblivion War, and it is quite possible for someone to be a participant in more than one of them at the same time.

Jesus isn’t Starborn he was literally part of the White God, that doesn’t mean that there wasn’t a Starborn involved, if they are Wizards who are long lived and cheat.

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