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666 years and what follows - The Cycle
vultur:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on July 29, 2020, 06:13:35 AM ---Apologies if that wasn't clear. I wasn't saying Nicodemus was born in 1309...just that he could well have been a Starborn as at least one or more where around the time of Christ.
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yeah - it's quite possible. If he was one of the first "generation" of Denarians he'd be right about the right age (middle aged at the time of the Crucifixion).
--- Quote ---It doesn't fit is having one running around 1000 years before Dresden anymore. Which Jim said was when the last time was once...but he has sort of contradicted himself with the whole 666 thing.
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It's not necessarily contradictory - a Starborn could have been born in the 600s and active in the 1000s. Ancient Mai is something like 400 years old, and the Gatekeeper is way older (probably by skipping time).
--- Quote ---Perhaps there isn't one EVERY 666 years, just the possibility of one. Maybe the last one really was Rashid.
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Possible. Or maybe Starborn who aren't wizards can't really do much with it so the fact that they are starborn is just kind of trivia. Or maybe the Starborn in the 14th century got killed early.
--- Quote ---True, but Jim might have used the plague (which is fairly well known) anyway. It wouldn't have taken a whole lot of digging.
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Oh, the Plague of Justinian itself was fairly well known, but it wasn't known/confirmed to have been the same disease as the Black Death until pretty recently. So given when Death Masks was published, I think it's still possible for the Dresdenverse that plague was invented from scratch in the 14th century by the Denarians.
--- Quote ---My math puts the starborn birth actually 23 years after 0. However, I think my theory about things not always being exact accounts for the errors.
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It would be counting back from Harry's birth (~1975) not from today. That's why I got a date about 45 years earlier.
Bad Alias:
Mavra is a practitioner. She may have been a practitioner before she was turned, so she could easily have been born early enough.
Grifter:
I don't think Eb would have said "once in every six hundred and sixty-six years" if it weren't just that. Why be exact with you know it's wrong?
I think the Starborn alignment happens every 666 years. Maybe it fluctuates within the year, but not by years. Months at most, which would allow for the confusion over Elaine.
BrainFireBob:
--- Quote from: Grifter on July 29, 2020, 04:52:34 PM ---I don't think Eb would have said "once in every six hundred and sixty-six years" if it weren't just that. Why be exact with you know it's wrong?
I think the Starborn alignment happens every 666 years. Maybe it fluctuates within the year, but not by years. Months at most, which would allow for the confusion over Elaine.
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That's not that exact. The Romans had to add a variable number of days to their calendar to sync it.
In recorded history, we're talking what, 4-5 cycles? It might be very precise- and lame- 666 years, 6 months, 6 days, in the sixth hour, just no one has caught that yet.
Grifter:
--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on July 29, 2020, 06:09:28 PM ---That's not that exact. The Romans had to add a variable number of days to their calendar to sync it.
In recorded history, we're talking what, 4-5 cycles? It might be very precise- and lame- 666 years, 6 months, 6 days, in the sixth hour, just no one has caught that yet.
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Sure, but you're still talking about a variation of months between alignments, and a collective variation of 3.5 years across all of recorded history (4,820 years or so).
So it's not like it could easily fudge from 23 BC to 0 AD (or even 4-6 BC, as some theorize for timing on TWC's birth year).
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