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ClintACK:
If it ends with Thomas and the baby safe and Hunger-free, as a result of a Bargain, Harry will be mad that he was out of the loop, but not at all displeased.

The key moment for Harry-Mab relations, I think, is when he asks her to trust him and she does. The next step will be Mab actually telling him what her endgame goal is and trusting him to work towards it, rather than trying to strongarm and manipulate him into doing it -- and I think we could see that in some aspect of Battle Ground. There are tons of small plots going on surrounding the big thing (which itself is just a distraction for what's happening at the Outer Gates) -- I'd bet there's one that could be handled quickly if Mab were to simply tell Harry her goal and point him in the right direction.

(My current working theory is that the Lara-Mab-Marcone plot is designed to smoke out the Nemfected and other traitors among the Accords signatories. I'd imagine lots of suspects being fed information or put in what looks like a pivotal position, so they'll be tempted to betray the alliance and expose themselves.)

Mira:

--- Quote ---If it ends with Thomas and the baby safe and Hunger-free, as a result of a Bargain, Harry will be mad that he was out of the loop, but not at all displeased.

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  "If," is half of life as my dear old father used to say.  That still might happen but I don't believe it
will be by the end of Battle Ground.  I get the feeling that Thomas is going to remain in stasis for at
least a book or two.  I think Mab is trying to make amends for that, among other things to Harry in Christmas Eve.

--- Quote ---The key moment for Harry-Mab relations, I think, is when he asks her to trust him and she does. The next step will be Mab actually telling him what her endgame goal is and trusting him to work towards it, rather than trying to strongarm and manipulate him into doing it -- and I think we could see that in some aspect of Battle Ground. There are tons of small plots going on surrounding the big thing (which itself is just a distraction for what's happening at the Outer Gates) -- I'd bet there's one that could be handled quickly if Mab were to simply tell Harry her goal and point him in the right direction.
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There is no proof that she trusts him fully,untill she lets him in on her plans.  I think by the end of Battle Ground he will have earned her trust.  But at the same time given the Knights, Ladies, and her working relationship with Titania the last thousand years or so, old habits die hard.  We will have
to see how flexible she can be, and it will be critical that she is.

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(My current working theory is that the Lara-Mab-Marcone plot is designed to smoke out the Nemfected and other traitors among the Accords signatories. I'd imagine lots of suspects being fed information or put in what looks like a pivotal position, so they'll be tempted to betray the alliance and expose themselves.)
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Yeah, but that has become such a catch all, given the kind of risks and sacrifices of the likes of Harvey and now Thomas, I think it goes beyond just smoking out traitors and the Nemfected. I think there are less costly ways of doing that.  Now I wouldn't be shocked, kind of turning your theory around a bit, if Marcone, Lara, or Mab were infected and that is why at least one of them was willing to play this game.  Planting division and doubt are sure ways to defeat, it seems to me that was the goal of whoever put Thomas up to going through with this plot.

vultur:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 30, 2020, 11:36:57 AM ---In this case, though, their obsession should lead them to target all their vengeance on Lara, if they know that Harry was formally working for her to repay a favor.
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Exactly.


--- Quote ---We're told Etri is "what amounted to a head of state" and "the heaviest hitter [Harry] knew of among his people", but he's also described as "the head of the svartalf embassy". That's not a description you'd give to a king.
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Eh... I don't think he's exactly a king, if he were he'd be outright a head of state, not just "what amounted to".

But I don't think he's several levels of authority down like Bianca relative to the Red King, she wouldn't even be "what amounted to a head of state".

I think that description puts him at the top level of authority among the svartalves, but not necessarily the only person at that level (he might be one of a number of essentially equal nobles).

Mira:

--- Quote ---I think that description puts him at the top level of authority among the svartalves, but not necessarily the only person at that level (he might be one of a number of essentially equal nobles).

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Who may have been in on his own assassination, which was part of a bigger plan to disrupt the talks.  However it got botched, there was a death, and suddenly the stakes were raised a bit higher.

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