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ClintACK:
We've seen Harry as an unreliable narrator before -- in Small Favor when Mab messed with his mind and his memory, and in Changes when he omitted significant events that had been wiped from his memory, and in another way in Skin Game to keep us in the dark about his clever scheme.

What if Harry is horribly wrong about both the Svartalves and the White Court, maybe even about Thomas?

We've seen Thomas keep secrets and manipulate Harry before to a lesser degree, like in Backup (for good reasons) and in White Night (less so). Could all of the scenes about Justine being pregnant and Thomas worrying about being a father *all* be a manipulation to get Harry acting on instinct?

If Harry had come out of the apartment (after watching Svartalves terrorizing Maggie) and started a fight... or if he'd tried to rescue Thomas... either would have constituted Mab's Winter Knight blatantly shredding the Accords within the first hour of the truce for the Peace Talks. It would have been a blow to Mab almost as serious as being kicked through several walls by Ethniu.

And we see Lara throwing the sex-mojo-whammy at Harry multiple times. It doesn't work to sex-whammy him, but it certainly does change the subject when he's asking uncomfortable questions about what's going on.

Big picture: the local Powers of the Accords are getting together for a meeting to discuss dealing with the Fomor, and Harry spends the whole book dealing with a prison break that could blow up the Accords and lead to millions of innocent deaths. It's sort-of like him to get obsessed with saving family, but it's unusual for him to so completely lose the big-picture plot. How sure are we that he hasn't been mind-whammied?

Could Mab have done it to him again -- perhaps as Lara's first favor? (If she just made him extra vulnerable to Lara's influence, it would explain why she needed to so graphically warn Lara against feeding on Harry, in their first scene.)

BrainFireBob:
Wrong how? That they're trustworthy?

For Thomas to be untrustworthy, he'd need to have WHAMMIED Harry at some point. Doesn't appear to have happened.

For Lara to be untrustworthy, she'd have to be Lara. Note: I don't think she's trustworthy, I think she wants the last male of the family available for pumping numbers after the Raith deeps.

For the Svartalves, they'd have to not keep bargains.

That said, Austri was Harry's poker buddy and their kids played together. If there was any effort to remove Harry from their property, it would violate guest right. If you wanted to induce him to break it, going after his brother is a good idea- and Austri's the one that would balk.

morriswalters:
Lara may be dirty and she was draining Thomas rather than feeding him.  Who knows? Her first favor might have been getting Mab to shield Justine from the babies demon.  Maybe she wanted Thomas to die on the island and was pissed because Harry put him in a cell and saved his life.  This book is such a hot mess it's hard to decide. Do we know what her first favor was?

ClintACK:
For the Svartalves, Eb's not saying that they don't keep their bargains. He's saying that they are predatory monsters and that it's horrifying that Harry is raising his daughter among them.

Harry expresses his view in this book as: "I like the svartalves. They're good people."

If all you knew about Svartalves was what we read in "B is for Bigfoot" -- which one would you agree with, Harry or Eb? How about when you see Mouse in full-on Temple Guardian mode with all the special effects fighting to keep the svartalves away from Maggie?

For Thomas, Harry being wrong just requires Thomas to have done the math and decided that Justine and the Baby are important enough to betray Harry. Maybe not enough to kill him -- just set him up and count on him being smart enough or strong enough to survive the fallout.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 27, 2020, 09:40:13 PM ---We've seen Thomas keep secrets and manipulate Harry before to a lesser degree, like in Backup (for good reasons) and in White Night (less so).

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Also Blood Rites.

I've wondered if Eb was right about everything ever since someone posted that Eb should have better explained to Harry why he hated WCVs so much. It reminded me of arguments about Harry should have better explained to Kim Delaney and Susan the dangers of the greater circle and the vampire party.

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