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Speculation: What did Mab remove from Harry's memory this time?

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The_Sibelis:
I'm still convinced the timelines slipping more as we get closer to the event horizon (like the echos in CD) but I agree Mab might have kept stuff hidden to keep Harry from thinking about it consciously. Just get ahold of his ID and explain things and he'd probably help cover it.

ClintACK:
Interesting. So, assume Mab took Harry's memory of: (1) Coming to BFS to see Marcone (and Mab) at the end of Skin Game, and (2) His basement lab, as it existed post-Death Masks. (I thought it was going to be about Little Chicago, but the silver summoning ring makes an appearance much earlier in Blood Rites, where we're told he upgraded it to contain Lasciel's coin, several books earlier)

Several other things not mentioned in Peace Talks (thus, potentially erased):

* Lasciel and Lash and Hannah Ascher

* The fact that Bonea is his daughter -- "Ever since the new-formed spirit of intellect had coalesced inside my mind, it had grown until it was too big for the space..." Perhaps I'm reading too much into it -- but Harry doesn't seem to remember how Bonea came to be in his head.

* Soulfire -- He doesn't ask Eb whether soulfire would be useful against the Corner Hounds, and his fire is suddenly "emerald" in color. In Skin Game he's hurling the "silver-white fire of Creation itself" -- and when he draws power into his staff making the runes glow, it's "green-white light and silvery soulfire". (And remember that he only got soulfire as a result of Lash teaching him to use hellfire...)
Combine with the inexplicable news that the Genoskwa is around, which suggests that Hannah Ascher, or at least Lasciel's coin, might have escaped as well...

And...

Well...

Only wild speculation beyond that.

But what if Mab and Marcone collected those coins for nefarious purposes, and had them with them at the end of Skin Game. Might they have worried that between them Harry and Molly might have been able to sense that?

Thorned Namshiel's coin went missing during another weird "Mab, Marcone, and the Denarians" adventure in Small Favor.

Wild and crazy theory: Marcone has three Denarians owing him favors -- the Genoskwa for the rescue, plus the new hosts of Lasciel and Namshiel for giving them the coins.

Wilder theory: Lara has Lasciel's coin. The first favor was erasing all memory of Lasciel from Harry's mind. This could explain Lara's "off" behavior through the book -- and Thomas could have made a bargain with Lasciel -- or even taken up a coin as part of such a bargain.

Even wilder guess: Marcone's had Namshiel's coin for well over a year now. Did *he* take up the coin? Did he give it to Hendricks (beard=evil!)? Did he give it to Childs? (Or did he give it to Mab, who wanted vengeance on the fallen angel that used hellfire on Arctis Tor, in return for a ton of help building his Barony -- hence the supernatural bank and hosting the Peace Talks...)

knightedbishop:
Interesting theory! I like it much better than believing Jim was sloppy.

vultur:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on August 06, 2020, 08:19:20 PM ---Several other things not mentioned in Peace Talks (thus, potentially erased):

* Lasciel and Lash and Hannah Ascher
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Eh, I don't think anything came up that would lead Harry to mention them.


--- Quote ---Combine with the inexplicable news that the Genoskwa is around,
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That was a surprise, but maybe not inexplicable. Denarians are specifically described as being really hard to kill, and we don't know that much about the Forest People's magic, but they have this crazy super-life aura... I guess Ursiel-Genoskwa being able to do Wolverine style healing from a blood smear isn't really that bizarre, at least if the coin remained in contact with the blood smear.


--- Quote ---Wilder theory: Lara has Lasciel's coin.

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I wondered about this. The Genoskwa could have recovered the coin from Hades. And Lasciel's prior issues with Harry could explain why Lara's Hunger is now trying to feed when she touches Harry, which didn't previously happen (in WN Lara didn't get burned until she actively used her emotion-power on him in a kiss to boost Harry's shield spell; in TC there's kind of a big deal made about how Lara, unlike Madeline, has that level of control over her Hunger).

But I can't really see Lara accepting a Coin. Why would she risk losing control like that?[/list]

Conspiracy Theorist:
Hunger plus Fallen Angel? It would be getting a little crowded.

Checking with the Wiki the summoning circle was copper through Storm Front to Turn Coat. It was upgraded to Swartalves manufacture by changes to braided iron, silver and copper. It was used to summon various entities for info on Maggie.

In Changes he learns Leas murder garden is on the Never Never side. Could that memory have been taken to force Harry to take Thomas to  Demonreach as well as the memory of Little Chicago? If Harry had taken Thomas to Leas demesne that would have implicated Winter, this forced him to Demonreach and access to the weapons. If had gone through the Never Never and used the gem to escape he wouldn’t be in Chicago to learn about Ethnui

Lea most likely took Little Chicago through to the Murder Garden, where she can update it the retention of the lab means the link is still good, Harry can access it in BG when that memory is returned

Lasciels coin was kept under a separate steel ring underground.

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