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Speculation: What did Mab remove from Harry's memory this time?
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 06, 2020, 10:54:20 PM ---Hunger plus Fallen Angel? It would be getting a little crowded.
Checking with the Wiki the summoning circle was copper through Storm Front to Turn Coat. It was upgraded to Swartalves manufacture by changes to braided iron, silver and copper. It was used to summon various entities for info on Maggie.
In Changes he learns Leas murder garden is on the Never Never side. Could that memory have been taken to force Harry to take Thomas to Demonreach as well as the memory of Little Chicago? If Harry had taken Thomas to Leas demesne that would have implicated Winter, this forced him to Demonreach and access to the weapons. If had gone through the Never Never and used the gem to escape he wouldn’t be in Chicago to learn about Ethnui
Lea most likely took Little Chicago through to the Murder Garden, where she can update it the retention of the lab means the link is still good, Harry can access it in BG when that memory is returned
Lasciels coin was kept under a separate steel ring underground.
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the wiki lies... It was pointed out it changed from copper to bronze and back in the early books. I didn't catch this myself but it was pointed out.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: knightedbishop on August 06, 2020, 08:48:53 PM ---Interesting theory! I like it much better than believing Jim was sloppy.
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I hate to disappoint you but....
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There are multiple issues in both the text and audio book. I own both. The audio book has some rough edges, volume changes, subtle changes in the characters voices and there are a lot of small things in the text version. None of them are show stoppers, just irritants.
ClintACK:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 06, 2020, 10:54:20 PM ---Checking with the Wiki the summoning circle was copper through Storm Front to Turn Coat. It was upgraded to Swartalves manufacture by changes to braided iron, silver and copper. It was used to summon various entities for info on Maggie.
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Rare example of the wiki being wrong, then.
The copper/bronze circle was upgraded to silver between Death Masks and Blood Rites, when he buried Lasciel's coin. This was later upgraded to the deluxe svartalf model.
--- Quote from: Blood Rites, at about the 10% mark ---A worktable ran down the middle of the room, and at its far end was a comparatively recent concrete patch that did not match the rest of the floor. The patch was surrounded by the summoning circle set into the stone. I'd splurged on replacing the old ring with a new one made of silver and I'd moved everything in the room as far from it as I could.
The thing I'd locked up under the circle had been quiet since the night I had sealed it into a spirit prison, but when it came to entombing a fallen angel, I was pretty sure that there was no such thing as too much caution.
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--- Quote from: vultur on August 06, 2020, 09:07:23 PM ---Eh, I don't think anything came up that would lead Harry to mention them.
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I'd have expected him to mention Lash, in passing, when introducing their daughter on screen for the first time.
And when he heard that the Genoskwa had somehow survived and made it out of Hades, I'd have expected him to think of Hannah Ascher and Lasciel's coin and wonder.
But the big one was soulfire. He's mentioned before that soulfire is particularly potent against certain creatures -- red court vampires, frequently, but also outsiders. Heck, in Cold Days he made a Walker scream in pain by hitting it with soulfire. It was a shocking omission in the fight with the corner hounds -- especially when there was an extended discussion about what magical weapons would be most effective against outsiders.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: ClintACK on August 07, 2020, 04:12:07 AM ---Rare example of the wiki being wrong, then.
The copper/bronze circle was upgraded to silver between Death Masks and Blood Rites, when he buried Lasciel's coin. This was later upgraded to the deluxe svartalf model.
I'd have expected him to mention Lash, in passing, when introducing their daughter on screen for the first time.
And when he heard that the Genoskwa had somehow survived and made it out of Hades, I'd have expected him to think of Hannah Ascher and Lasciel's coin and wonder.
But the big one was soulfire. He's mentioned before that soulfire is particularly potent against certain creatures -- red court vampires, frequently, but also outsiders. Heck, in Cold Days he made a Walker scream in pain by hitting it with soulfire. It was a shocking omission in the fight with the corner hounds -- especially when there was an extended discussion about what magical weapons would be most effective against outsiders.
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The odd thing about Harry not remembering that soul fire is an effective weapon against Outsiders, is that Harry did remember that Outsiders couldn't really mind whammy him for more than a second or two. So it's not like Harry has forgot everything about Outsiders or his own strengths when facing them.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 07, 2020, 02:26:57 AM ---I hate to disappoint you but....
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There are multiple issues in both the text and audio book. I own both. The audio book has some rough edges, volume changes, subtle changes in the characters voices and there are a lot of small things in the text version. None of them are show stoppers, just irritants.
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I was just listening to the interview Jim did on Facebook about Peace Talks. Now it's easy for us to say the book was split in two as a cash grab by the publisher, but Jim said; well, he screwed up writing the novel. Jim wanted the story to take a big left turn about two thirds through the story, something that would be really cool. (I'm paraphrasing, I don't remember Jim's exact words.) However, Jim's editor said that the story had become kind of a mess. Not only was it suggested that the story should be split in two, but Jim had to make some changes, some additions to the story, in order for the first book (Peace Talks) to work.
So, my guess is a lot of work; by both Jim and the publisher, went into the changes made in Peace Talks to make it a (sort of) stand alone story; whereas in every other Dresden Files novel that time and effort would have been exclusively spent on polishing the existing story. It makes me wonder how well Battle Ground will read.
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