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PEACE TALKS SPOILERS Rashid/Starborn Theory
Grifter:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on July 16, 2020, 08:38:13 PM ---From the semi-official timeline:
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I think that was the original guess, but it changed over time with new data points. Later in the second post we have:
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0 ASF, March: Storm Front. Harry is 25, according to Jim, and he's been wizarding professionally for two years. We can reasonably place the year 0 in the timeline within a year or two of 2000, and there's a fair amount of evidence indicating that it could be 2000.
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That's at least supported by the line in SF about it being past the dawn of the new millennium (although not definitive, since it was all written sometime later). I think there were other things mentioned in the thread about years with full moons in certain dates and events corresponding to SF being in 2000, but I don't recall all the specifics.
wardenferry419:
--- Quote from: Grifter on July 15, 2020, 12:02:50 PM ---Either way, it would be 1975-666. So 1309, 643, 23 BC, 689 BC, etc, etc
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If Rashid is, possibly, the 643; and Nico is, possibly, the 23 B.C. Who in history, or fictional history, would be the Starborn around 1309?
Grifter:
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on July 17, 2020, 01:29:23 AM ---If Rashid is, possibly, the 643; and Nico is, possibly, the 23 B.C. Who in history, or fictional history, would be the Starborn around 1309?
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Kemmler seems unlikely to be that old, at least to me, but others like that idea.
Maybe Abramelin the Mage? He was born around that time but the exact dates seem to be in doubt.
EDIT: I also like the idea of the Witch trials of that age being a plot to hunt and eliminate a female Starborn that the bad guys know exist but don't know her identity. But that's a completely wild speculation. (Not the Salem witch trials, the ones like Alice Kyteler in 1324; she'd make an interesting possibility but it doesn't match her birth date and she'd be too old to be a Starborn of 1306)
ClintACK:
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on July 17, 2020, 01:29:23 AM ---If Rashid is, possibly, the 643; and Nico is, possibly, the 23 B.C. Who in history, or fictional history, would be the Starborn around 1309?
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The Black Court was founded during the Black Death, in the late 1340's, when that Starborn would be in his or her late thirties. So, a few potentials: Drakul's scion (if scions are eligible, and not just full humans), possibly Kinkaid, and my favorite: Mavra, a human starborn wizard before she was turned.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Grifter on July 16, 2020, 09:17:08 PM ---I think that was the original guess, but it changed over time with new data points. Later in the second post we have:
That's at least supported by the line in SF about it being past the dawn of the new millennium (although not definitive, since it was all written sometime later). I think there were other things mentioned in the thread about years with full moons in certain dates and events corresponding to SF being in 2000, but I don't recall all the specifics.
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I just always go with the version of the timeline available here: https://www.jim-butcher.com/timeline. It's got stuff like the below on it, so we know it's being updated.
--- Quote ---14 ASF: Job Placement, an Irwin Pounder-POV microfiction.
14 ASF, July: Peace Talks and Battle Ground
14 ASF, December 24th: Christmas Eve, a short story.
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The timeline itself says 1999 is a best guess. My point in sharing was just that SF is 1999ish. Not that 2000 is wrong. More to reinforce that it's 2013-2015ish in PT. Almost certainly not today. There was one thing in PT to suggest it was later than it should be. I'm going to have to read it again to remember.
I know they killed men a lot too in the later witch trials. I assume it was the same in the earlier ones, so it could have just been a plot to eliminate a Starborn, regardless of gender.
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