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PEACE TALKS SPOILERS Rashid/Starborn Theory

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Conspiracy Theorist:
“Clintack, that's fair enough. Although Peace Talks isn't in 2020. I think it's still 2015 or something. Jim said something about it in a recent interview.”

Quite true, in the Dresdenverse they will be probably be having the BAT in their version of 2020. This is merely the Pre -Apocalypse Duology, or PAD, it is 2015, and Obama is still President,  with all his Chicago connections.

Grifter:
I think the Timeline hashed out that Storm Front was 2000, and Skin Game (14 years after SF) would be 2014, making PT and BG still 2014. 

cleoslemonade:
I love "PAD." Let's totally use that term  :D

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Grifter on July 15, 2020, 03:10:04 AM ---I found it interesting that we saw the elder Senior Council members appearing... Elder. 

(click to show/hide)Eb seemed ancient, like an old man raving against this new millennial wizard outlook on vampires being more than just monsters.  We saw Liberty injured and hobbled, and we saw Listens ask for help getting out of the car/looking tired and being called all but dead by Rivers.

It seems like the comment about the older wizards was about all of them.  Given that we've also got literal "Ancient" Mai, 1,000+ Rashid, and Old Man Langtry... I'm wondering just how many of them are going to survive the next few books.  My money's on Rashid outlasting most of them.

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It'd be interesting to see one of the Senior Council members die of old age in a time of great violence.


--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 15, 2020, 12:36:23 PM ---@Grifter -- Yep. It depends whether you're looking at the year when the Starborns are born, or the years in which they are active adults, or the year of the Big Apocalyptic Thing that we've been ominously told is Coming Soon for Harry and for which the starborns are born.

Another random speculation -- could Nicodemus be starborn, from 23 BC or so?

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I'd say we should start with the birth year because they weren't active before that.

The problem with Nicodemus as a starborn is that he doesn't appear to be a practioner.


--- Quote from: Grifter on July 15, 2020, 10:14:57 PM ---I think the Timeline hashed out that Storm Front was 2000, and Skin Game (14 years after SF) would be 2014, making PT and BG still 2014.

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From the semi-official timeline:
--- Quote ---Smallpox aside, the timeline editor believes the most compelling data points to Storm Front taking place in 1999,
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Walter the skull:
I think Rashid is a star born, and that star borns are a double edged sword.   

The council probably figured out that Harry was a star born pretty soon after he was captured.  Many of them still wanted to kill him.  Many still would be fine if he was dead.  My guess is that the council is like screw this Dresden guy, we've got our own star born.  Another possibility is that star borns can actually wield outsiders against people from our reality.  If Harry can bind them and banish them, why couldn't he have ordered them to go kill Marcone or something.  The council sees Harry as tainted, and a rogue star born is worse than no star born.

Either or both of the above could have played a part in the council's desire to off Harry.

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