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A Hypothetical Diplomatic Incident

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knightedbishop:
Politics would take precedence here. I don't think the White Council would be dumb enough to piss Titania off by sending the Wardens to arrest Fix. There may be some posturing, and a hot head Warden could certainly cause a diplomatic incident if he caught Fix in the act and didn't stand down.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Walter the skull on July 08, 2020, 10:58:12 PM ---Do the laws of magic only count for people who are using their own power?  If a mortal makes a pact with a dark god and uses the power he or she gained to kill some one is it a violation of the law?  They aren't really doing anything different than one of the knights, but they aren't members of the accords.

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I think the laws may only be for those using their own power, yes. Fix and Slate didn't seem to do magic like a human wizard - I don't think they used spell words. That may mean the warlock progression of having to twist your soul to believe in bad things in order to be able to succeed at casting spells to do bad things doesn't apply to them, or at least apply in the same way. They have to deal with having their personality rewritten by the mantle instead. Granted, the difference between Slate and a warlock is splitting hairs, but there's less incentive to behead a monster when he's just going to be replaced by another monster once the mantle has a chance to work on the next guy for a while (which is probably also part of the reason the Council was generally not interested in sorcerer Denarians).

Harry is atypical both politically because he's already accountable to the Council as a member, and practically because he's mostly using Winter as a power boost to his own magic rather than directly, which he says is to resist being mind-warped by drawing deeply and directly on it.

As for an independent who made a deal with a dark god for sponsored power, there's probably some overlap with warlocks. An independent would typically have to have at least some small measure of innate power to get the attention of such a being in the first place if they stay at all themselves ... but in that case the Wardens would probably do the usual disable with magic and finish with a beheading or a bullet approach.

Mira:


Fix was never a wizard so I doubt that the Seven Laws apply to him.

Arjan:
The laws of magic apply to those humans the white council considers human (click to show/hide)And probably that magic the wite council considers magic  ;D

vultur:

--- Quote from: Walter the skull on July 08, 2020, 10:58:12 PM --- Fix is a mortal (sort of)  and he kills some one with magic, which is a violation of the first law.  Does it not count because Fix is an extension of Titania's will?  Does it not count because Fix's power is an extension of Titania's?  Does the council have jurisdiction over changelings or only standard humans.  When you are a mortal and take on a fairy mantle are you now considered a fairy?  Do the laws of magic only count for people who are using their own power?
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The Summer Knight is still mortal, he has to be - that's largely the point of the Courts having a Knight at all.

But it's not really about mortal vs. not, or what the source of power is.

The Laws of Magic are enforced by the White Council. They can enforce them against their own members, obviously. They can also enforce them against your average sorcerer, mortal practitioners who aren't members of the White Council, because they have no other Accords nation representing them - the White Council claims jurisdiction and nobody powerful is contesting that claim.

Fix the Summer Knight is a member of the Summer Court, an Accords nation. The White Council enforcing their internal laws against him just isn't going to fly.

Someone using power derived from a non-Accords-member entity to kill, like the HWWB-powered ritual in BR, would be subject to the White Council's enforcement.

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