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"That Stunt with Mab"
toodeep:
While I suspect you are right because the coins are meant to "stay in circulation" to some degree, it is hard to see him recovering the coin that was buried under semi-molten rock, and only slightly more likely that he would be able to collect the one in the middle of the active icey crush-o-matic that killed Ursiel. I suppose Ursiels coin might have rolled out of the chopper, considering their nature.
g33k:
--- Quote from: toodeep on June 18, 2020, 05:59:47 PM --- ... it is hard to see him recovering the coin that was buried under semi-molten rock ...
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Some of the rock was molten, but lots of it was in chunks; and even the molten portion would have mostly been just on the edge of molten, ready to crust over quickly. There were plenty of interstices and openings.
The shadow / Anduriel can, I think, reach in through those openings, and take no harm from the heat.
--- Quote from: toodeep on June 18, 2020, 05:59:47 PM --- ... and only slightly more likely that he would be able to collect the one in the middle of the active icey crush-o-matic that killed Ursiel ...
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Anduriel lets Nicodemus fly; and fly very very fast, at that. They'd really only have to worry about one spot of the icey crush-o-matic, not the whole course; and just the split-second they swoop in to grab the coin. They watched Harry study the patterns and "solve" the whole maze... surely Nic is bright enough to figure the pattern for the one spot. Then they only need to worry about blocks dropping out of the shadows above. But: Master of Shadows, yo; Anduriel isn't going to have a problem with this.
TrueMonk:
This is actually something I have been a bit sceptical about on my somethings re-read. So Harry was the ice expert, but when it comes down to it could the Genoskva (and maybe Nic) have done the gate of Ice better than Harry? Or was it a lot easier to start in the cold end and then go to the "warm" end
g33k:
--- Quote from: TrueMonk on June 18, 2020, 06:26:16 PM --- This is actually something I have been a bit sceptical about on my somethings re-read. So Harry was the ice expert, but when it comes down to it could the Genoskva (and maybe Nic) have done the gate of Ice better than Harry?
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Not Gen. Harry ran the course twice. Gen died the first time through.
But yeah, I think the evidence is that Nic could have just flown over it, and thrown the switch.
I don't think Anduriel knew precisely what the "Gate of Ice" was, ahead of time. If it had been more like high-speed hail, for example, I don't think Nic/Andy could have made it... or a simple mini-glacier, 100 yards of pure wall-to-wall & floor-to-ceiling ice.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: toodeep on June 16, 2020, 11:59:49 PM ---Hmmm. I had not considered the fact that the denarians may actually be more fractured because of this. Good point. I wonder if this is the case, of if Nic came up with a really good plan whether his wife's fallen angel would still talk her into supporting him. Makes me wonder what her goals are compared to his.
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If Tessa is even really in the driver's seat. Besides Imariel, there's a very real possibility she's also N-fected.
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