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Faerie Queens -- six of them? Really? (a WAG)

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Avernite:

--- Quote from: g33k on April 26, 2020, 03:45:29 AM ---I think you mean Cold Days (the novel between GS & SG); not Cold Case (the short featuring Molly LadyWinter in Alaska)...?

One of the things people have noticed is that a bunch of the major players seem to be "grooming" Harry.  Training him in specific ways, prodding him to this goal or that.  Even 16yo Harry's fight with HWWBh is WAG'ed to have been more the Outsider evaluating/pushing Harry, than any sort of "fight."

I have no problem with the idea that a Nemfect'ed Mother Summer might have been "helpful" to Harry in ways that advantage a long-term plan, at the apparent expense of a short-term plan...

For example, I have separately WAG'ed that the REAL point of the Cold Days assault upon Demonreach was NOT to breach the entire island wide open.  It was to provide  cover for the underwater action, the REAL plan:
 the Fomor's jailbreak of a single entity... who features prominently in Battle Ground.

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Ah woops, yes, of course. Blame Butcher for having too similar names, Cold Days it is.

And it just makes no sense unless Nemesis is schizophrenic. Nemesis tried to stop Harry from his vantage in Cat Sith, from its plot with Maeve, and basically everywhere else. Yet Nemesis would've aided him in Mother Summer?

Granted Nemesis is an Outsider, and they are weird, but they also seem to be relatively organized. Assuming one of its agents would work against itself seems crazy, when all indications are even the many agents outside the gates work together.

And, finally - if Mother Summer were infected by Nemesis, where would be the last place she'd go? How about the Spiritual CAT-scanner at the Gatekeeper in the heart of his power, who has the best chance anyone has of detecting the problem... sure she stays a bit distant, but not really risk minimization.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Avernite on April 26, 2020, 09:30:37 AM --- ... And it just makes no sense unless Nemesis is schizophrenic. Nemesis tried to stop Harry from his vantage in Cat Sith, from its plot with Maeve, and basically everywhere else. Yet Nemesis would've aided him in Mother Summer?

Granted Nemesis is an Outsider, and they are weird, but they also seem to be relatively organized. Assuming one of its agents would work against itself seems crazy, when all indications are even the many agents outside the gates work together...
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Just presume Nemesis is playing a Long Game.  That whole "assault on Demonreach" at the end of Cold Days?  An elaborate feint, never expected or intended to work.  This WAG (which is actually separate from my "the Mothers are Nemfected" WAG) is that the primary objective of that operation was to enable the Fomor's underwater assault to go unnoticed, and for them to extract the Last Titan from one of the deep cells, underneath the lake.

En passant of the feint, give the Mothers some extra "we're on YOUR side, see?" credibility.


--- Quote from: Avernite on April 26, 2020, 09:30:37 AM --- ... And, finally - if Mother Summer were infected by Nemesis, where would be the last place she'd go? How about the Spiritual CAT-scanner at the Gatekeeper in the heart of his power, who has the best chance anyone has of detecting the problem... sure she stays a bit distant, but not really risk minimization.
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It's a war.

Risk is unavoidable.

And really -- how much risk IS it?

* Rashid would have to take deliberate measures to probe a Mother, it's not (so far as we know) as if there's an ambient Outsider-Detector spell running full time in the environment.
* Even with Rashid at the top of his game, we know there's a chance he'll miss something; he's doing his best, and hoping it's good enough.  But I've got to assume one of the Mothers would be an especially hard target!So the risk is probably acceptable, given that the reward is increased input into and trust from the Starborn.

Avernite:

--- Quote from: g33k on April 29, 2020, 05:30:38 PM ---Just presume Nemesis is playing a Long Game.  That whole "assault on Demonreach" at the end of Cold Days?  An elaborate feint, never expected or intended to work.  This WAG (which is actually separate from my "the Mothers are Nemfected" WAG) is that the primary objective of that operation was to enable the Fomor's underwater assault to go unnoticed, and for them to extract the Last Titan from one of the deep cells, underneath the lake.

En passant of the feint, give the Mothers some extra "we're on YOUR side, see?" credibility.

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Your second point I can sort of see as an excuse; I still think Mother Summer took a much too great risk, if she was Nemfected rather than working for team reality, but I suppose it's arguable.

But I don't see why Nemesis sacrificed Cat Sith to make the feint if it was a feint at all, rather than just keep him entirely out of things as a sleeper agent. Cat Siths contribution there is a dodgy attempt on Harry's life followed by utter loss. If he had never showed up, Harry would be just as alive and just as scared, but wouldn't know Sith was corrupted. For someone able to pull the apparently elaborate plan of Nemfecting the Mothers but feinting they were still good, throwing away Sith for nothing seems weird - either he wins and the Mothers feint is entirely wasted, or he doesn't and Sith is entirely wasted.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Avernite on May 01, 2020, 09:05:59 AM --- ... throwing away Sith for nothing seems weird - either he wins and the Mothers feint is entirely wasted, or he doesn't and Sith is entirely wasted.

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The point of a feint, really, is distraction.

By geting Harry focused on Sith (who is less than Mab, who in turn in less than the Mothers), it gives Harry a bone to worry at, and keeps his attention at a much lower level of action than where the real threat(s) are...

kbrizzle:
@g33k
Presumably Alfred would’ve let Harry know that there had been a breach in the year Harry spent on DR before SG.

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