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didymos:

--- Quote from: Mira on April 06, 2020, 08:36:43 PM ---   There is a contradiction there because why else would he say he was more than likely sterile, unless he really thought it? 

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He never said that. Again, here's the quote:


--- Quote ---“Yes,” Thomas said. “And my kind are all but infertile to boot. Happened anyway.”
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--- Quote ---Yes, but I believe she had been taking meds all along but they weren't helping as they should.  The act Thomas feeding drained off her excess emotions and cured her severe mood swings if I remember correctly from Storm Front or one of the other early books.

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It was Grave Peril where we meet her.  And she said she wasn't taking meds back then:


--- Quote ---“Yes. Yes, Thomas. He makes it quieter. Inside me, there’s so much trying to get out, like at the hospital. Control, they said. I don’t have the kind of control other people have. It’s hormones, but the drugs only made me sick. He doesn’t, though. Only a little tired.”

Grave Peril (The Dresden Files, Book 3) (p. 384). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Apparently, Lara got her better ones.

morriswalters:
I will pledge some token amount if Jim will promise to take a class on reproductive biology.  If he wants to say that Whites have a low reproductive  rate he should just say so.  Carry on.

g33k:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 06, 2020, 09:34:52 PM --- ...  If he wants to say that Whites have a low reproductive  rate he should just say so ...
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Ummm.
He did?

--- Quote ---... my kind are all but infertile to boot. Happened anyway.
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I mean, it's in-character stuff, so Thomas may have been lied-to, or be lying to Harry, or other sort of misinformation.

If it had been WoJ'ed (in an AMA or 'Con panel) or something, I guess it'd be "more reliable"?
 

Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on April 06, 2020, 06:01:33 PM ---Does that mean the baby's demon can't feed? If so, does that mean it will wither and die?

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Why can't the baby feed like a regular human baby? White Court Vampires are essentially mortal until they come of age (presumably 18, but I can't remember if that was explicitly stated) and feed, which I imagine summons the phage part of themselves that attaches itself to them. I suspect that this also quite probably occurs during the first time the WCV loses it's virginity, and knowing Jim this would only count if it was penetrative vaginal intercourse. I wonder how this accounts for underage sex and/or sexual abuse? Or gay vampires for that matter (assuming such a thing exists - it more than likely should with sex-vampires but who knows in the Dresden Files).

I also think everyone is getting too hung up on Thomas' (Jim's) choice of phrase. Little character intention 101: the line is less about the words used, and more about the thought behind it. The intention is clear i.e. that WCV can have babies BUT mostly do not because of biological and/or supernatural factors. Whether Thomas is telling the truth or is simply misinformed is an entirely different argument - and impossible to answer without more information.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on April 06, 2020, 11:49:18 PM ---Why can't the baby feed like a regular human baby?
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Because it doesn't?
--- Quote ---Except that the baby’s Hunger will draw life energy from Justine. She’s going to be fed upon continuously for the next seven and a half months.
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