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--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 04, 2020, 05:42:40 PM ---A bootstrap paradox is simply broken cause and effect.
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Just putting a name to that specific "breaking" of cause and effect. Aren't all time travel paradoxes breaking cause and effect in some way? I'm not coming up with any off the top of my head that don't.
@Yuillegan: No apologies necessary. I find the biggest flaw with most time travel stories is that they don't follow their own rules. Honestly, some of the best ones are the best in part because they only break their own rules once or twice.
Jim has repeatedly said all humans can do some magic. It's more the origins of the ability to sense magic or have lots of innate ability that I think is the mystery.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 05, 2020, 01:03:15 PM ---And Jim then tells you that he is going to explore one of those branches in Mirror Mirror.
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That branch exists because of Choice, not time travel. Which really irks me because it means that every time Choice is exercised, it also isn't exercised.
The Gates could just as easily affect aging as they could time, which is just a slight tweak to your theory.
I do think Jim had a really good idea for a primary rule for time travel in his series. The Law of Conservation of Time. That rule allows for flexibility in going back in time, doing things that would drastically change things under most time travel rules, but don't in the Dresden Files because there is a fundamental rule of the universe that it's hard to change something that has already happened. A similar thing was done in Farscape where past events only had to be "close enough" to not affect the broader timeline.
morriswalters:
A split is a split. How would Jim explain the difference?
--- Quote from: Bad Alias ---I do think Jim had a really good idea for a primary rule for time travel in his series. The Law of Conservation of Time. That rule allows for flexibility in going back in time, doing things that would drastically change things under most time travel rules, but don't in the Dresden Files because there is a fundamental rule of the universe that it's hard to change something that has already happened. A similar thing was done in Farscape where past events only had to be "close enough" to not affect the broader timeline.
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All well and good until you consider what Harry will be trying to do by time traveling. It comes down to he going to try and save the world. Am I missing something? The Chronicles of St. Mary's has a pretty nifty plot point to take care of it. Monkey with causality and the Universe kills you.
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--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 06, 2020, 12:00:20 AM ---A split is a split. How would Jim explain the difference?
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A time travel split could eventually merge back into the original time line, but, narratively, that rule would be difficult to work into a story with a satisfying payoff. Also, why not have multiple things that result in a thing? Time travel, Choice, quantum mechanics. Why only have one cause of multiple universes?
Honestly, it's just another reason for me to not like the set up to Mirror, Mirror. There are better ways to explain alternate universes. It's a little harder to do it in a universe with free will, but I'm sure Jim could pull it off.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 06, 2020, 12:00:20 AM ---All well and good until you consider what Harry will be trying to do by time traveling. It comes down to he going to try and save the world. Am I missing something?
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Harry can change the one thing without undoing everything because it takes focus to change that one thing. A story centered around a McGuffin, the change to the timeline, can be action packed and entertaining. It could be some simple thing that Harry realizes he will need that got burned up in his apartment. A "if we only had a wheelbarrow, that would be something" situation.
morriswalters:
There are a limited number of story reasons to go back. At 68 I'll never know. So I've picked mine. It fits the facts as we know them. It doesn't offend my sense of physics too badly. And I can back fill with my imagination. It's stupid but it's a place to hang my hat. Here's to Peace Talks.
Toodles
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--- Quote from: morriswalters on April 06, 2020, 02:02:56 AM ---Toodles
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