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Some curious things in Summer Knight
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on March 22, 2020, 06:47:59 PM ---Indeed, the question is at what point did he become infected? It has been a while but didn't Mab assign him to assist Harry? I seem to remember something to that effect. Anyway Harry didn't immediately perceive that Cat Sith was infected. The reason for that could be until he met with Titania that he then became more vigilant.. So was it that, or did Maeve or someone else infect Cat Sith mid-book?
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Harry speculates about that when he fights Cat Sith.
--- Quote --- “You see,” I said, “Cat Sith is a creature of Faerie, and he swore an oath to Queen Mab to obey her commands. She commanded him to obey mine. And I just gave you a command, kitty. Did Mab release you from her command? Did she suspend the duties of her vassal?”
Sith snarled again, his eyes getting wider and rounder, his tail thrashing around wildly.
“They got to you, didn’t they?” I said. “They jumped you back at the Botanic Gardens while you were covering my exit. Freaking Sharkface was watching the whole thing and he got you.”
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They just changed Cat Sith mind a bit so his aggression was no longer bound by the oath he gave to Mab. That is much like mind magic. When that was not enough they switched to more direct possession. Much of how Nemesis can work was shown in that confrontation.
morriswalters:
Funny thing about the lighthouse. If it had been there when the glaciers came through and carved out the Great Lakes it makes you wonder how he lighthouse could have survived? There would have been a one mile thick, minimum, sheet of ice grinding away. The stones on that lighthouse must be super stones and God only knows about the mortar.
The older I get the less I trust what Jim says. I'm minded of Obi Wan speaking to Luke when he says, "What I told you was the truth, in a way...." or whatever the precise quote is.
Vadderung suggests in Cold Days that one of the reasons that the prison was put where it was, was because of the water surrounding the island, which would not have been there until after the retreat of the ice.
Bad Alias:
Alfred Demonreach has been there forever* and was injured by the glacier or simply reflects the carving of the earth by the ice of the glaciers. Alfred Demonreach was not created by Merlin. Demonreach the Prison was, and we only know that Merlin created it in "five times at once" or whatever the proper quote was. We don't know when the first time was. I suspect it was after the island was an island.
Or at least that's my understanding of the history of the island. I'm not sure if my understanding has been challenged enough to be cemented.
@Yuillegan: Alfred Demonreach could be another reason the Prison was built on Demonreach.
*By forever I just mean a sufficiently long enough time that we can ignore his "birth" for the sake of this conversation.
g33k:
--- Quote from: Arjan on March 23, 2020, 01:07:45 AM --- Harry speculates about that when he fights Cat Sith ...
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Harry first worries about it back at Molly's apartment, when he calls for Sith and Sith unexpectedly doesn't respond. He gets extra-annoying, "Here, kitty-kitty-kitty..." and Sarissa almost panics.
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: g33k on March 24, 2020, 08:40:36 AM ---Harry first worries about it back at Molly's apartment, when he calls for Sith and Sith unexpectedly doesn't respond. He gets extra-annoying, "Here, kitty-kitty-kitty..." and Sarissa almost panics.
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Which is right after the meeting at the Botanic Gardens...which is how he deduces that Cat Sith got jumped right after.
BA -
Not sure that Demonreach was there before Merlin built the Prison. He says he is the bars, the gates, the walls etc. I think he is a creation of the Prison. He is ancient because the Prison was also created in prehistoric times, whenever Merlin's earliest point in time was that he created the Prison.
It's curious that the glacier caused a limp, because I have always assumed the Prison was built so early that the island was once part of the main land and the glacier was responsible for making it an island. However, as Morris points out, Vadderung says the Prison was built specifically there because one of the reasons was that the island was surrounded by water. So which is it?
The Cat Sith infection does show plenty about Nemesis, but only some symptoms. Nowhere near enough to make any sort of reliable conclusions.
I agree - Jim has done quite well at subtly retconning a lot of the early stuff by being both clever and vague. When I was talking about passing in and out of the Nevernever, I meant for supernatural creatures. They used to have a much harder time coming across, I even think it is in one book where they say it is much easier to open a door from this side, than from the Nevernever. Which has mostly been retconned.
I was just being facetious about Van Buren, wasn't meant to be taken literally. :)
Yeah I suspect the Moon was unviable for a number of reasons lol. In general it had to be accessible enough for the Warden, and I daresay it had to be on Earth literally. Something to do with Genius Loci I imagine, among other things. I guess I think there were places more remote without being on the other side of the world that Merlin could have chosen. He didn't for whatever reason, I hope we find out why. Maybe Merlin is Harry. That would make most sense to me.
Indeed, some of the best fun of this board is how much everyone has tucked away. You constantly are reminding me of details I forget as well, as do many others. Together we have Dresden Files Intellectus!
Morris - I agree. Jim is getting shifty. Or perhaps I am noticing more. Either way, gotta take a fair bit of what he says with a grain of salt. But that doesn't mean he is completely unreliable either. Just enough to make us paranoid :o
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