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Some curious things in Summer Knight
Arjan:
The goal in summer knight is to destabilize the sidhe courts but the end goal is always to open the gates and destabilization is not enough without a force in place to make use of it because in the end the courts will find a new equilibrium.
Maeve would have been in the right place to make use of the destabilization.
I think it is shown the infection can work in several ways. It can completely take over as we have seen with cat Sith and Lea or it can change the hosts nature to make it more compatible with its aims. but every infection is unique in its interaction between the host and nemesis.
And some infections or maybe all need careful management. It could be that during Summer Knight most of Nemesis attention was focused on Aurora, which gave Lea the idea that she could fight it alone, and that Maeve was not aware of the infection yet and could only be carefully influenced or taken over completely. Her deal with Nemesis was yet to come.
Maeve was kept in reserve for the final blow when the Sidhe courts were in total chaos.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on March 21, 2020, 06:31:42 AM ---1) I agree with what your saying, but it doesn't really examine properly why they were there around the time the Red Court war kicks off. It is too big of a coincidence imho.
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If by they, you mean the Faerie Courts, they moved in just after the RCW kicked off. Harry suspects it's because of the weakening of the border to the Nevernever that Bianca did. Which may have been the point of whoever is pulling the strings.
Chicago would be the end of the line because that's where the Word of Kemmler was. That's why they were in Chicago.
Maeve was playing Lily and gloating a lot. All very Maeve. Aurora was "helping." They were acting in character but against their natures. Maybe nemfection is like mind magic in that it can only bend someone so far before they break. That would explain why they wouldn't have worked together if both were infected, but I do agree it's simpler if Maeve isn't infected yet, or the infection hadn't yet taken root.
Arjan:
Nemfection has to work a bit like mind magic and a bit like possession depending on the amount of influence and control Nemesis wants. Mind magic for long term and possession for immediate concerns.
For the infection to kept hidden and the hosts somewhat functional the hosts nature must not be changed too much and the host will function mostly on autopilot as it did before.
So an infected person can sometimes do something against Nemesis in line with their original nature if Nemesis is distracted but not at crucial moments.
We see that later Maeve still acts based on her mommy issues. Nemesis works with what is available just like mind magic.
Mira:
--- Quote ---For the infection to kept hidden and the hosts somewhat functional the hosts nature must not be changed too much and the host will function mostly on autopilot as it did before.
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Yes, Aurora appeared almost normal, Harry bought into her compassion as soon as he met her. Maeve on the other hand had her issues so until things got out of hand nothing seemed all that unusual about her.
Yuillegan:
Yeah but Harry had no idea Maeve had issues when he met her for the first time, nor Aurora...he didn't even know they existed! How Harry perceived them in their first encounters respectively is really irrelevant to whether they were or were not infected.
Arjan - It's a interesting take, but it is just speculation. You don't know how Nemesis work functionally within a host. You are guessing. Perhaps it works like mind magic, perhaps like Denarian influence, perhaps like ghost/demon possession. But we don't KNOW because there is no text evidence or WOJ to prove it. You are just assuming how it works. We only know that it is sentient, and that it likes to keep some assets covert and seemingly unaware (although we haven't seen the thoughts from the inside). But we have seen it can take full control of an asset if necessary, and we have seen that it can cause beings to violate their fundamental nature.
You might be right about the goals, but we didn't see enough of the big picture in Summer Knight to know what was going on. The fact Rashid shows up tells me that he probably wasn't needed at the Outer Gates, so their likely wasn't a major assault. But he did take a keen interests in events, and push them in Harry's favour so he likely was doing some part of his job. If Aurora had destabilised the Courts, it would have meant the mortal world was less able to stop the agents of the Outsiders from opening the gates etc. Winter winning against Summer would only have made them lose overall. That was the real play, even if Aurora couldn't see it. Mothers Summer and Winter pretty much say this "the boy can see what she cannot" to paraphrase.
But what evidence do you have from the books, or WOJ, that Maeve was kept in reserve? It isn't even implied as far as I can tell.
Bad Alias -
I meant the Ladies, specifically. But excellent reminder, the Heirs of Kemmler had to be in Chicago as it was Bone Tony who found the Word at a WWII auction locker and was selling it, drawing them in. Although Bob being the back up was awfully convenient. Still.
I am sure that if they were both infected, Nemesis could have made them work together. If it couldn't, it really isn't the threat everyone says it is.
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