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Mira:

--- Quote ---This and the guitar playing was Bonea according to Id Harry in Skin Game. It's fair to argue that Id Harry was wrong, but it isn't fair to say Id Harry didn't say that.
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  One has to wonder when Bonnie was conceived and how much she could influence if that were true.
Because from that moment until Skin Game she presented only as a severe headache, the name, parasite, was never used until the end of Ghost Story.  But whether Id Harry was right or wrong or didn't say it is beside the point.  At the time that Harry heard the whisper, he had no clue that Bonnie existed or could exist in his head.

--- Quote ---As changes was set up now Mab was the best choice. It was faster than a darkhallow and more reliable than the fallen. If Harry had gone for one if the other two it would have been a totally different book not just by Harry’s choices but by Jim’s choices as well.
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Yes, Mab was the least bad of three bad options, Uriel reinforces that when he talked about the path.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Mira on April 28, 2020, 03:53:52 AM ---But whether Id Harry was right or wrong or didn't say it is beside the point.
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Depends on which point you're referring to. If the point is that Lash did it, it is directly relevant. If it's about Lasciel still having a connection to Harry, then it's relevant. If it's that Harry was scared that there was a connection, then you're right, and it's not relevant. But all those points were made (I think by you), so it is relevant to this thread.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on April 28, 2020, 06:43:52 PM ---Depends on which point you're referring to. If the point is that Lash did it, it is directly relevant. If it's about Lasciel still having a connection to Harry, then it's relevant. If it's that Harry was scared that there was a connection, then you're right, and it's not relevant. But all those points were made (I think by you), so it is relevant to this thread.

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If I understand you correctly it was Bonnie that did the whispering at the end of White Night and that Id Harry claimed that she did.  Do you have the quote and page number from Skin Game?  I don't doubt you, I just cannot find it.  Anyway, what I am saying is Bonnie was quite developed at the end of White Night to come forth so shortly after Lash died.  Which is weird because after that outburst/whisper when he played the guitar, she has been silent, her only presence was severe
pain in Harry's head until Ghost Story when we learn the pain was caused by a parasite.  What I am
saying is when he heard that whisper/outburst, he had no clue Bonnie existed did he?  So what would be the only exploitation for it in his mind?  Other than either some of Lash remained, or there was still some connection to the coin however tenuous and it worried him enough that he wanted it out of the basement and turned it over to Father Forthill.  However if he wasn't informed about Bonnie until Skin Game, and if his Id said nothing about until Skin Game, whether or not it was Bonnie back in White Night that did the whispering really doesn't matter..  Because Harry acted as if he feared it was Lasciel..  Now that may have been a mistake because perhaps though Andruiel, Nic or someone got word about it, arranged to pinch the coin now in Father Forthill's keeping.  Unknown is whether or not Hannah Asher became the host as of Changes or perhaps before, which allowed Lasciel to do her thing when Harry was down in Changes.  Toodeep came up with the quote from Skin Game where Lasciel does confess that it was her that pushed Harry over the edge in Changes.
Only problem with that theory is Hannah Asher, we know she had a vendetta against Harry post Changes, but did she feel that way before Changes?   If it was a plot hiccup on Jim's part Denarian
moving about freely without a host, that blows a lot of the storyline.  The other explanation/theory
that makes any sense is the coin was still hidden in Father Forthill's office, and yes, as Harry sort of boasted to Mab, that close to the coin, there was still some connection between Lasciel and Harry.

morriswalters:
Page 182 in the Kindle version.  And the relevant passage from White Knight.
--- Quote ---I mean, she could have made you see and feel anything at all, and…" Bob paused, and his eyelights blinked. "Hey, Harry. Are you crying?"
"No," I snapped, and left the lab.
The apartment felt… very empty.
I sat down with my guitar and tried to sort out my thoughts. It was hard. I was feeling all kinds of anger and confusion and sadness. I kept telling myself that it was the emotional fallout of Malvora's psychic assault, but it's one thing to repeat that to yourself over and over, and quite another to sit there feeling awful.
I started playing.
Beautifully.
It wasn't perfect performance—a computer can do that. It wasn't a terribly complex bit of music. My fingers didn't suddenly regain their complete dexterity—but the music became alive. My hands moved with a surety and confidence I usually felt only in bursts a few seconds long. I played a second piece, and then a third, and every time my rhythm was on, and I found myself seeing and using new nuances, variations on chords that lent depth and color to the simple pieces I could play—sweet sadness to the minor chords, power to the majors, stresses and resolutions I'd always heard in my head, but could never express in life, It was almost like someone had opened a door in my head, like they were helping me along.
I heard a very, very faint whisper, like an echo of Lash's voice.
Everything I can, dear host.
I played for a while longer, before gently setting aside my guitar.
Then I went to call Father Forthill and tell him to come over, so that he could pick up the blackened denarius as soon as I dug it out of my basement.
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Oh, and the sigil was no longer on his hand.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Mira on April 28, 2020, 08:56:43 PM ---If I understand you correctly it was Bonnie that did the whispering at the end of White Night and that Id Harry claimed that she did.

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My claim is that Id Harry said that. It's about halfway through Ch. 23 of Skin Game. I can change text size, which changes the number of pages.

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