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Kincaid microfiction "Goodbye"
morriswalters:
Knowing what Susan was, Harry's moral responsibility was to bring her all the way in to the magical world. Anybody with a lick of sense would expect their lover, who was a reporter, to do exactly what Susan did. I mean Lois Lane, need I elaborate? My father had a crude saying to cover it, I'll paraphrase. Never get laid where you get your paycheck.
If he had done that, then when told her that Vampires will eat you, he may have some reasonable morale defense to the claim that he(Harry) was free of responsibility for the outcome.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on March 23, 2020, 01:53:16 PM ---Knowing what Susan was, Harry's moral responsibility was to bring her all the way in to the magical world. Anybody with a lick of sense would expect their lover, who was a reporter, to do exactly what Susan did. I mean Lois Lane, need I elaborate? My father had a crude saying to cover it, I'll paraphrase. Never get laid where you get your paycheck.
If he had done that, then when told her that Vampires will eat you, he may have some reasonable morale defense to the claim that he(Harry) was free of responsibility for the outcome.
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I'd agree, except for a couple of things. Susan had been exposed to frog demons, werewolves, and Loops, she'd seen Harry do rather fantasic stuff, she cashed in on all of that. So what part of her anatomy was she keeping her head when it comes to not knowing the magical world can be be very dangerous? I submit that it wasn't about how much knowledge she had or didn't have, hell, Harry could have given her a whole seminar on the subject and it wouldn't have stopped her from going to the party. It was about the story, publishing it, making her reputation in the news world. There are things that Harry wouldn't tell her because there were rules against it, but she was like a greedy kid, more she was fed the more she wanted.. There is also very little one can do with people who chose to be willfully ignorant when they have been warned.
The huge mistake Harry made in my opinion was to continue to date her after it became clear she was using him to further her career. If he had, she might be alive today, but then again she would have continued to probe, and when you play with fire you are going to get burnt.
Bad Alias:
Back to Kincaid and what this story means. Ivy knows, to a fair degree of statistical certainty, what's going to happen when she acts. She cares for Kincaid. Kincaid is a bad person with a Darkness in him. We see that when Harry soulgazes him. Kincaid loves Ivy and is in denial. His denial of lofty principles leads him to take the job on Dresden.
Did Ivy fire Kincaid for his own good? Will facing consequences for his lack of principal be beneficial to him? I imagine Kincaid usually doesn't face moral consequences. He just deals with the practical. Ivy is one of the most powerful characters in the books. She likely often acts, unseen, by nudging things this way or that way. And for the inevitable objection from people not paying attention, her neutrality is a lie. She is not neutral.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on March 24, 2020, 07:15:59 PM ---Back to Kincaid and what this story means. Ivy knows, to a fair degree of statistical certainty, what's going to happen when she acts. She cares for Kincaid. Kincaid is a bad person with a Darkness in him. We see that when Harry soulgazes him. Kincaid loves Ivy and is in denial. His denial of lofty principles leads him to take the job on Dresden.
Did Ivy fire Kincaid for his own good? Will facing consequences for his lack of principal be beneficial to him? I imagine Kincaid usually doesn't face moral consequences. He just deals with the practical. Ivy is one of the most powerful characters in the books. She likely often acts, unseen, by nudging things this way or that way. And for the inevitable objection from people not paying attention, her neutrality is a lie. She is not neutral.
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I think Ivy doesn't love Kincaid like the father she never had, she also loves Harry as uncle, big brother... The Archive on the other hand isn't sentimental, the Archive also knows that emotions like love have driven it's hosts mad in the past, so to protect Ivy's sanity, Kincaid had to go. I also think that the Archive also knows what is about to go down, that somehow has had contact with both Uriel and Mab, hence the orders to go for the heart instead of the more sure kill shot, the head.. It was all planned out, that is why Mab just happened to be in the icy water to receive the body, and why Harry's body just happened to fall into the icy water in the first place, it all amounts to pre-planning..
Bad Alias:
For those who are interested, here's the last time we did the "is Harry to blame" dance. https://www.paranetonline.com/index.php/topic,53127.0.html.
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