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Kincaid microfiction "Goodbye"
Dina:
--- Quote from: g33k on March 21, 2020, 06:46:56 PM ---In the end, in a "the buck stops here" way, Kim is the person who owns the responsibility for her own actions. But her choices were limited by her information, and Harry intentionally kept critical information out of her hands: he cannot be held blameless.
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Well, many of us think the is blameless. I don't see why you are the one to decide if he can or cannot be held blameless.
Bad Alias:
Mira, I don't know if you don't understand what I've written or if you are just not engaging it in good faith. You're not addressing it. Your response was basically why would Harry physically stopping her do any good. I responded to that. I gave examples of how that would do good. Then you said "Well, that's not what happened in the book." Well, yeah. I'm trying to get at what Harry could have done differently that would have succeeded. If you can outline my argument in your own words in detail, I can see where the miscommunication is happening. Try not to use unclear antecedents.
--- Quote from: Mira on March 22, 2020, 12:38:52 AM ---The answer is no[yes], because[but] Harry did[could] not try[succeed in] to stop[ping] her from leaving.
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That would be a response to what I'm saying.
Dina, now I feel like I'm speaking Spanish.
Dina:
Sorry I don't know what can be clearer. I agree with you Kim is the one responsible for her actions. I also agree there are others, like those who altered McFinn's circle. But I disagree Harry is one of those And, as I said, I am not the only one. So only because you say "Harry has to blame" it does not make it true.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on March 22, 2020, 05:32:17 AM ---Mira, I don't know if you don't understand what I've written or if you are just not engaging it in good faith. You're not addressing it. Your response was basically why would Harry physically stopping her do any good. I responded to that. I gave examples of how that would do good. Then you said "Well, that's not what happened in the book." Well, yeah. I'm trying to get at what Harry could have done differently that would have succeeded. If you can outline my argument in your own words in detail, I can see where the miscommunication is happening. Try not to use unclear antecedents.
That would be a response to what I'm saying.
Dina, now I feel like I'm speaking Spanish.
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What I am trying to tell you is what you are suggesting is kidnapping. So no Harry couldn't just drag her out of Mac's place, there were witnesses to the argument. Nor since he had already began the explanation about the circle there in the pub, kind of hard to switch gears to "we cannot speak about this in public." Kim was a determined and pissed off woman, doubtful that she'd submit quietly to either. We were talking about the book, so that where my counter argument comes from.
Dina understands you perfectly, like me, she just disagrees with you.
Bad Alias:
@Dina: I was talking about Mira who is ignoring what I'm saying. She's arguing with me about my imagined responses to her arguments that she's left unsaid. She's skipping steps. When she skips steps she misconstrues my positions. On top of that, she's responding to things that are similar to the things I'm saying, but are not in fact things I have said. She cannot or refuses to restate my position.
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