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Harry the Anti-Christ, Harry the Merlin

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morriswalters:

--- Quote ---Unsafe eh? Is there something I should know about? Is it dangerous to get WAGs wrong? Well probably, at least on this forum...
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Absolutely meaningless rhetorical flourish.  I like it anyway.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: didymos on February 23, 2020, 11:09:55 AM ---She was on the run a total of about two years before dying.  So she got pregnant at roughly two years minus about 36 weeks after she left Raith.

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It's highly likely that she would have been using the Ways extensively to evade those who were hunting her. She could easily have been pregnant for two earth-years with the effects of time dilation.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on February 22, 2020, 01:06:54 AM ---But none of that explains why Thomas has very little magical ability and Harry does, apart from a writing reason. My take is Jim when creating Thomas didn't need another Wizard, and his vampire abilities were enough for the story, but he added a little bit of magic later when he needed it in the Back Up short story.

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He only went to a tech school for magic instead of pursuing multiple MIT level doctorates. That's the analogy Thomas uses. I believe Jim has said something about Thomas having the requisite talent, but he hasn't nurtured it. Also, a White Court practitioner isn't going to be Council level because of the Hunger, but would also be able to do "weird stuff" with the Hunger. I'm only like 65% certain I'm remembering the WoJ properly. Also what Morris said.

@Morris: Rat running?


--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 23, 2020, 04:14:16 AM ---Well more seriously, there is what Maggie intended versus what Raith did.  Jim does this so much that you can't tell when he does it. Again using his favorite fantasy trope, Obi Wan when confronted by Luke about Vader, tells Luke that what he said was true, in a way.  Now I won't say Jim is prevaricating, but he's a little shy about being straightforward. Given that, until shown otherwise, I assume he shading us somehow.

In any case, in Grave  Peril[Blood Rites Margaret refers to what Raith had done to all three of them, herself and her two sons. While I don't think that means that Raith is  Harry's daddy, I don't see a way of escaping the fact that Raith was up to something  that involved the three of them.  And Raith never laid eyes on Harry until they meet the first time in Chicago.  Draw your own conclusions.

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I tend to think murdering his mother so that he is eventually raised by DuMorne unaware of the White Council and the Laws is enough. There may have been more, but I would be surprised by that.


--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 23, 2020, 01:08:41 PM ---Yeah, I have this whole passage bookmarked in my copy that I use for research. This passage speaks more directly to your point.But the text implies that Harry was planned before Margaret bolted.  She planted a working that could only be triggered by a soul gaze in Thomas before she left.

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I was looking for that quote and couldn't find it. I knew there was a quote from Soulgaze Maggie either confirming Malcolm's status or close enough for me.


--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 23, 2020, 11:59:51 PM ---Absolutely meaningless rhetorical flourish.  I like it anyway.

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As the kids say, lol.


--- Quote from: Yuillegan on February 23, 2020, 11:50:52 PM ---Yeah I know what you mean. In fact, I am surprised Harry isn't more weirded out by how much interaction he has with Angels. Especially Uriel. Almost like Harry will be involved in big, multiverse affecting events. Which all goes back to my frustration that Harry really should question his life more, particularly the weirder stuff. Like how in a decade he hasn't bothered to find out more about his mother, or a what a starborn is etc. I feel he would be less out of his depth if he took the time to just figure out some of the bigger questions in his own life. Not to mention some of the big universal ones, like where do gods come from or why do the Outsiders want to destroy reality or who was the Merlin? Maybe pick up those damn diaries that Eb has!

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Isn't it only high level players who have revealed to Harry that they know anything about his starborn/what he was meant for status? Some of whom have acted like he wasn't even there and came to the decision to not inform about things very likely important to him and the survival of the world. I have a feeling he's asked Bob and Bob wasn't helpful.

And for the record, I'm pretty sure Malcolm is Harry's bio-dad, but it's a fun theory that it could have been Raith and Harry fits the Merlin's origin legends.

morriswalters:
@Bad Alias
Rat Running

Yuillegan:
BA - I honestly found that comparison a weird choice. Harry is an academic in a sense, he certainly has been a student for a long time. But the sheer time it takes to complete one doctorate, let alone several would be prohibitive to Harry's time. He also had school at the time, whilst I respect his training it always seemed more like learning instruments or several martial arts.

But it doesn't explain why Harry is a top 40 Wizard in strength despite being so young (this was established in the early books) and Thomas has next to no magical muscle. At the very least, I would expect have Lord Raith and Maggie as parents should have made him a stronger WCV. I know Thomas kept his head down so his father didn't kill him (as he did to his previous sons) but still.

I never understood that WOJ about how the Hunger interferes with WCV being fairly strong Wizards. Red Court and Black Court don't seem to have any such issues. They almost have next to none and rely exclusively on their Hunger tricks, I don't know what "weirder" stuff they could do but Lord Raith had quite a few back in the day. I would like to see Thomas get a proper power up myself. At the very least, some more magic.

I have no idea why it is only the high level players, but even Chauncy seemed to know a bit. I just think he should pull his head out of the sand and start asking the big questions - and before anyone says it: I know it's all to do with when Jim chooses to reveal these things in a very long series. But for me it is starting to break immersion.

Cheers, I thought it was a fun theory to. I could well be wrong. But that's the fun of these forums right?

Morris: It was a fine phrase, just bantering with you a little.  8)

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