The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Harry the Anti-Christ, Harry the Merlin
didymos:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 23, 2020, 02:36:02 AM ---Yeah. Jim seems to have a misconception, common to men. That is, if you are having great vampire sex without the benefit of birth control that a baby is an accident. Your genitals know what evolution created them for, and they are tireless and have a great work ethic.
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In any case, the point is Maggie didn't have Thomas on purpose.
morriswalters:
Well more seriously, there is what Maggie intended versus what Raith did. Jim does this so much that you can't tell when he does it. Again using his favorite fantasy trope, Obi Wan when confronted by Luke about Vader, tells Luke that what he said was true, in a way. Now I won't say Jim is prevaricating, but he's a little shy about being straightforward. Given that, until shown otherwise, I assume he shading us somehow.
In any case, in Grave Peril Margaret refers to what Raith had done to all three of them, herself and her two sons. While I don't think that means that Raith is Harry's daddy, I don't see a way of escaping the fact that Raith was up to something that involved the three of them. And Raith never laid eyes on Harry until they meet the first time in Chicago. Draw your own conclusions.
didymos:
I don't think Raith is Harry's father:
--- Quote ---“God knows,” Thomas said. “All I know is that there was some sort of business between them. It developed into something else. Father was trying to snare her permanently, but she wound up being too strong for him to completely enthrall. She escaped him when I was about five. From what I’ve been able to learn, she met your father the next year when she was on the run.”
Butcher, Jim. Blood Rites (The Dresden Files, Book 6) (p. 196). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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The implication is that she was on the run for a good while before meeting Malcolm. Also this, later in the book:
--- Quote ---“She did,” Ebenezar confirmed. “I don’t know why, but for some reason she turned away from her previous associates—including Justin DuMorne. After that, nowhere was safe for her. She ran from her former allies and from the Wardens for perhaps two years. And she ran from me. I had my orders regarding her as well.”
I stared at him in pained fascination. “What happened?”
“She met your father. A man. A mortal, without powers, without influence, without resources. But a man with a good soul, like few I have ever seen. I believe that she fell in love with him. But on the night you were born, one of her former allies found her and exacted his vengeance for her desertion.”
Butcher, Jim. Blood Rites (The Dresden Files, Book 6) (pp. 349-350). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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She was on the run a total of about two years before dying. So she got pregnant at roughly two years minus about 36 weeks after she left Raith.
morriswalters:
Yeah, I have this whole passage bookmarked in my copy that I use for research. This passage speaks more directly to your point.
--- Quote ---"As are you, Harry. So tall, like your father. And I think you have his heart as well."
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But the text implies that Harry was planned before Margaret bolted. She planted a working that could only be triggered by a soul gaze in Thomas before she left.
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 23, 2020, 01:43:40 AM ---The easiest way of explaining why Thomas isn't a Starborn is that they shot at the target and missed. Having said that it fails to account for Elaine if she was Starborn as well.
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It is certainly possible. Yeah Elaine is a real oddity to me. She doesn't neatly fit in at all. Which absolutely makes me much more interested. I would really like to find out more. She screws up many a theory.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 23, 2020, 01:43:40 AM ---It's unsafe to assume otherwise. Somebody knew a lot. They knew where Harry was. And Harry didn't have a fixed address. They tagged after him for six years. And they had a plan for losing surveillance after they murdered Malcolm. And a way to shield him from prying eyes. Lash doesn't say that parentage is important. But they couldn't control the circumstances of Harry's birth. The when, where and how unless it was set up before she ran. But if parentage was important and Malcolm was the father then Margaret knew who he was before she ran. He wasn't random. Is there a hole in that?
And I have to ask, doesn't anyone ever find it funny that Harry does so much rat running with senior level angels. Not to mention dream mail from dad. He gets a lot of attention for a non angel.
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Unsafe eh? Is there something I should know about? Is it dangerous to get WAGs wrong? Well probably, at least on this forum... :P
Yeah it is a curious thing the whole Malcolm thing. I agree that it does appear that she picked him out, whether he was the biological father or not. I do imagine she did fall in love with him. From what we know, he seems like a truly good man. Perhaps that is reason enough. She knew she might have a monster for a kid, and picked the best soul to raise him right that she could. A really interesting study about psychopaths a few years ago postulated that nurture had a lot to do with how psychopaths behaved as adults. Those that received love, particularly from their mothers, were less likely to go around murdering folks and more likely to become successful (if perhaps brutal) people.
But perhaps Michael had special, magical properties that she needed. I find this less likely, but still possible. The quote you use is the only one I recall ever mentioning Malcolm's height. Which could explain away a lot of my theory (so obviously I must dislike it, when the facts fail to fit your theory they must be discarded!)
But as you say, there is quite a bit of circumstantial evidence that suggests that Margaret knew she was going to have Harry. Perhaps she even predicted it (with her Future Sight). She did plan things out quite far. She knew to leave her jewel with Leah. She planted the vision within Harry and Thomas in order to convince each other they were siblings, so they would protect each other. Who knows what else she planned?
Yeah I know what you mean. In fact, I am surprised Harry isn't more weirded out by how much interaction he has with Angels. Especially Uriel. Almost like Harry will be involved in big, multiverse affecting events. Which all goes back to my frustration that Harry really should question his life more, particularly the weirder stuff. Like how in a decade he hasn't bothered to find out more about his mother, or a what a starborn is etc. I feel he would be less out of his depth if he took the time to just figure out some of the bigger questions in his own life. Not to mention some of the big universal ones, like where do gods come from or why do the Outsiders want to destroy reality or who was the Merlin? Maybe pick up those damn diaries that Eb has!
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