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Did Bianca die? And was she more powerful than we realised?

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g33k:

--- Quote from: SerScot on June 28, 2020, 10:24:33 PM --- The Red Court is dead.  Here's hoping they stay that way.
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Given Grave Peril as the divergence for Mirror,Mirror, I expect the Ramps are still going strong in the Mirror'verse; I can't see the whole little-Maggie / Martin / Bloodline-Curse playing out to get rid of them again.  Plus, it's yet another element with which to inflict misery upon Harry, in that book...  I can't see Jim leaving such a marvelous torment un-used.

But that's the Mirror'verse.  In the Harry-Prime Dresden'verse, I expect they'll stay dead.

Though if Jim wants to bring them back, it's easy enough to posit a Ramp war-party having been deep in the Nevernever, and insulted from the Bloodline Curse.  Or alternately / similarly, to say that the "black, leathery" Ramp inside the fleshmask is originally some sort of nevernever creature (n.b. the Ik seemed to be of a similar sort), and there's more of them still off wherever the first one(s) came from.
 

Dina:

--- Quote from: Maz on February 03, 2020, 06:15:51 PM ---What's really funny is ever since JB gave that answer I had presumed Mirror Harry elected to do the "right" thing by White Council standards and didn't go in to rescue Susan, never bonded with Michael or Thomas, fostered animosity against the White Council for "causing" the loss of Susan and all these other things, and therefore eventually donned a black hat.

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I think the same

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Dina on June 30, 2020, 07:02:47 AM ---I think the same

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I do but not exactly that way, not dramatic enough. And not last moment enough.

The real decision point is when he actually starts the war.


--- Quote ---"For the sake of one soul. For one loved one. For one life." I called power into my blasting rod, and its tip glowed incandescent white. "The way I see it there's nothing else worth fighting a war for."
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The mirror mirror Harry accepted the red courts proposal to avoid a war. That was not the right decision.

RCRanger03:

--- Quote from: g33k on June 29, 2020, 06:08:30 PM ---Though if Jim wants to bring them back, it's easy enough to posit a Ramp war-party having been deep in the Nevernever, and insulted from the Bloodline Curse.  Or alternately / similarly, to say that the "black, leathery" Ramp inside the fleshmask is originally some sort of nevernever creature (n.b. the Ik seemed to be of a similar sort), and there's more of them still off wherever the first one(s) came from.

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I think if the Reds come back it will be the Eebs

Aminar:

--- Quote from: Maz on February 03, 2020, 06:15:51 PM ---What's really funny is ever since JB gave that answer I had presumed Mirror Harry elected to do the "right" thing by White Council standards and didn't go in to rescue Susan, never bonded with Michael or Thomas, fostered animosity against the White Council for "causing" the loss of Susan and all these other things, and therefore eventually donned a black hat.

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I like to think he chose to leave the party with Susan and left Michael or that he took Susan instead of Michael. Both leave things in interesting spots that are wildly different. But the big part there becomes no war, Susan sticks around, Harry settles down, and he becomes reluctant to get involved. He's starting to do that now with Maggie and I think it will serve as an eye opener to him about how inaction lets chaos thrive.

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