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Did Bianca die? And was she more powerful than we realised?
g33k:
--- Quote from: Just Al on January 29, 2020, 09:23:04 PM --- I missed something. How do we know where the mirrorverse diverged?
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Word of Jim:
https://wordof.jim-butcher.com/index.php/word-of-jim-woj-compilation/woj-on-future-df-works/
--- Quote ---Dresden as he would have been if he made one choice differently... the big decision at the end of Grave Peril
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There's been a fair bit of discussion and debate about what "the big decision" is; even about what "at the end" of the book is... how FAR back from the end.
My own vote is from the very, very end of the book -- Harry lets Susan walk away. He could have argued harder, probably could have convinced her.
The fallout from that -- Susan never goes to Latin America, never gets recruited by St. Giles down there (maybe some North American branch reaches her?), so she never places any Little Maggie with the peasant family, the Reds never get their ammo for the Bloodline Curse (and Harry won't have boomerang'ed it on them), etc etc etc...
Mirror!Harry then has a local half-Ramp ally in Susan, like he has a Whamp ally in Thomas; tactically, Harry is MUCH more dangerous; strategically, it's a disaster: you can just IMAGINE how much the White Council would love THAT, and the odds of escaping their notice drop exponentially (since everyone knew that Harry & Susan were "a thing"). They probably figure out he's gone over to the Vamp side of things, and is one of the Ramp/Whamp cooperation channels.
Having Harry!Prime meeting Mirror!Susan will F*** with his mind in all sorts of fun ways, I'm sure Jim will love the chance to torment Harry that way.
I also argue that this is "the big decision" because it was THE big decision -- the one about Love.
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My second choice choice-point is at the beginning of the battle with Bianca -- she threatens him with open war, points out she already has Susan half-turned and the other half is inevitable.
And Mirror!Harry caves.
He takes her bargain, walks out with Justine, yielding the field to Bianca. In this case, Mirror!Bianca is alive, Mirror!Susan is full-Ramp (with an extra hate-on for Harry, for not saving her).
That decision would ALSO have been about Love; and Mirror!Harry will have such an abiding self-loathing after that, I can imagine it beginning his slide down to the dark side.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: g33k on January 29, 2020, 07:55:22 PM ---I think she's dead-dead. D-E-D dead.
She may get summoned back by necromancy, I suppose...?
I don't think she's eligible for a Mirror-Mirror return: she died before the end of the book, where the Mirrorverse diverged; so she's dead-dead in both timelines.
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I don't think so. If the decision was to give up Susan, then Bianca isn't dead in the Mirror Mirror world. Or at least she didn't die in that version of Grave Peril; she could have died afterwards before Harry gets pulled over to that parallel world. For example, what if in the Mirror Mirror world Red Court vampire Susan took her revenge on Bianca and took her place as the head Red Court vamp in Chicago? Imagine our Harry's reaction when he thinks he is going to meet Bianca again, only to meet RCV Susan instead?
Also, if Jim was misleading us by saying the decision occurred near the end of Grave Peril and it really occurred 60% - 75% through that story, then Bianca could also be alive in the Mirror Mirror world.
g33k:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on February 01, 2020, 02:22:47 AM --- ... If the decision was to give up Susan, then Bianca isn't dead in the Mirror Mirror world ...
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You are correct, of course. So long as the choice happens before the ghosts drag Bianca to downbelow, she may be alive in the Mirror!verse.
As I indicated above, that's a 2ndary chance.
IMHO, it's a distant 2nd: Jim said it was "at the end," (which other choices aren't) and he called it "the" choice, and this one is about Love. Harry finally said it... too late, in Prime!verse.
Maz:
What's really funny is ever since JB gave that answer I had presumed Mirror Harry elected to do the "right" thing by White Council standards and didn't go in to rescue Susan, never bonded with Michael or Thomas, fostered animosity against the White Council for "causing" the loss of Susan and all these other things, and therefore eventually donned a black hat.
SerScot:
The Red Court is dead. Here's hoping they stay that way.
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