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Harry's use of Black Magic
g33k:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on February 05, 2020, 08:05:40 PM --- What you describe is a slippery slope. The Council wouldn't be executing people under that rationalization because such behavior can be corrected relatively easily. The twisting of the mind that results from using black magic is why the Council executes practitioners who use it.
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I think the WC has a much, MUCH easier time determining the binary "did/didn't commit an act of Black Magic" than they have calibrating anything like a "% corrupted." So... if there's lots of mitigating factors like "they meant well" and "it was an accident" &c -- AND a wizard willing to oversee / rehabilitate the proto-warlock -- then the WC sometimes will levy the Doom, instead of just giving the Chop.
But the WC also has the overall "everyone knows this" sense that (most of the time) a convicted warlock who gets clemency still (eventually) returns to Black Magic... and still needs to be put down (only this time, they're more-senior, much harder to kill, and often have done much much more damage).
Better by far to just chop all those borderline cases, and save the (very many) victims of the inevitable backsliders, instead of the (very few) never-revert-to-warlock-ways wizards.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I think the WC has a much, MUCH easier time determining the binary "did/didn't commit an act of Black Magic" than they have calibrating anything like a "% corrupted." So... if there's lots of mitigating factors like "they meant well" and "it was an accident" &c -- AND a wizard willing to oversee / rehabilitate the proto-warlock -- then the WC sometimes will levy the Doom, instead of just giving the Chop.
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It isn't so simple, take Molly she meant well, she wanted her friends off of drugs... I guess since she hadn't a clue of what she was doing, it was sort of an accident... But what about when she tried to look into Morgan's mind, the mind of Luccio, even Harry to see if the influence of Lasciel was still there, she could find justification in each case, and yeah she meant well, but because she thinks she knows best she is willing to risk Harry's life along with her own.. Point is, she didn't learn her lesson, each time she does it the justification gets thinner and thinner until she doesn't need any at all..
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: g33k on February 05, 2020, 08:21:55 PM ---I think the WC has a much, MUCH easier time determining the binary "did/didn't commit an act of Black Magic" than they have calibrating anything like a "% corrupted." So... if there's lots of mitigating factors like "they meant well" and "it was an accident" &c -- AND a wizard willing to oversee / rehabilitate the proto-warlock -- then the WC sometimes will levy the Doom, instead of just giving the Chop.
But the WC also has the overall "everyone knows this" sense that (most of the time) a convicted warlock who gets clemency still (eventually) returns to Black Magic... and still needs to be put down (only this time, they're more-senior, much harder to kill, and often have done much much more damage).
Better by far to just chop all those borderline cases, and save the (very many) victims of the inevitable backsliders, instead of the (very few) never-revert-to-warlock-ways wizards.
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Yeah.
--- Quote from: Mira on February 05, 2020, 08:44:29 PM --- It isn't so simple, take Molly she meant well, she wanted her friends off of drugs... I guess since she hadn't a clue of what she was doing, it was sort of an accident... But what about when she tried to look into Morgan's mind, the mind of Luccio, even Harry to see if the influence of Lasciel was still there, she could find justification in each case, and yeah she meant well, but because she thinks she knows best she is willing to risk Harry's life along with her own.. Point is, she didn't learn her lesson, each time she does it the justification gets thinner and thinner until she doesn't need any at all..
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Well, yeah because black magic corrupts and twists people.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on February 05, 2020, 10:50:53 PM ---Yeah.
Well, yeah because black magic corrupts and twists people.
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That does not mean it is impossible, just difficult and risky. Ebenezer and Harry had a real impact on Harry and Molly compared to what otherwise would have happened. Ebenezar approved of what Harry tried to do with Molly. Changes interrupted that.
But really after all the trauma she went through in changes and ghost story and after the council was officially hunting for her she was still committed to not breaking those same councils laws. The old Molly would have gone completely bonkers.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on February 06, 2020, 05:32:26 AM ---That does not mean it is impossible, just difficult and risky. Ebenezer and Harry had a real impact on Harry and Molly compared to what otherwise would have happened. Ebenezar approved of what Harry tried to do with Molly. Changes interrupted that.
But really after all the trauma she went through in changes and ghost story and after the council was officially hunting for her she was still committed to not breaking those same councils laws. The old Molly would have gone completely bonkers.
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Part of that is maturity, part of it is the morality of her up bringing, but make no mistake, a part of her is still twisted. It is that aspect that Mab and Lea took advantage of, only time will tell whether or not it continues to twist her into someone a kin to Maeve. While Nemesis infection finally spelled madness and the end for Maeve, black magic could do exactly the same to Molly.. It's corruption doesn't stop even if she is now beyond the Council's reach.
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