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Harry's use of Black Magic
Yuillegan:
I think that's a fair analysis. Although I don't know it was a "loving" mother/daughter thing in a way that makes sense to us. They certainly displayed their affection differently. But they were definitely closer than Mab and Maeve were.
From the beginning is just speculation though.
Didn't Maeve also have a congenital defect, that manifested differently than Sarissa's yet was just as much a burden? I seem to remember the implication was that it contributed to her state of mind.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on February 22, 2020, 12:17:21 PM ---I think that's a fair analysis. Although I don't know it was a "loving" mother/daughter thing in a way that makes sense to us. They certainly displayed their affection differently. But they were definitely closer than Mab and Maeve were.
From the beginning is just speculation though.
Didn't Maeve also have a congenital defect, that manifested differently than Sarissa's yet was just as much a burden? I seem to remember the implication was that it contributed to her state of mind.
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I need to go back and read, but I seem to remember that bit about the defect also. Though weren't Maeve and Sarissa twins? However I don't remember whether or not they were identical or not. While it may not be loving as we understand it, it doesn't mean it wasn't either. We know the Fae are different from humans, but Mab was human once, and if the father of Maeve and Sarissa was a mortal man, they would be half human, so human emotion cannot be totally excluded either. It is interesting that Mab would even have that kind of contact with Sarissa if she was devoid of feeling. Actually when you think about it, we know that Mab feels and can express great anger, that is an emotion, a very human one, so why not love?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on February 22, 2020, 02:31:37 PM ---I need to go back and read, but I seem to remember that bit about the defect also. Though weren't Maeve and Sarissa twins? However I don't remember whether or not they were identical or not. While it may not be loving as we understand it, it doesn't mean it wasn't either. We know the Fae are different from humans, but Mab was human once, and if the father of Maeve and Sarissa was a mortal man, they would be half human, so human emotion cannot be totally excluded either. It is interesting that Mab would even have that kind of contact with Sarissa if she was devoid of feeling. Actually when you think about it, we know that Mab feels and can express great anger, that is an emotion, a very human one, so why not love?
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All basic emotions are there, Lea describes in Changes how she felt shame that drove her to seek Mab's aid for example and Titania was very explicit about the emotions she felt when Harry summoned her.
The one emotion mortals seem to monopolize is true love. One might think that is just a nice story created so humans can feel superior in having the sole right on this superior emotion but Mab seems to agree when she thought Thomas mortal enough for knighthood because he was in love.
morriswalters:
The whole point of the show on the mountain was about Mab's love of Maeve. She discovers she's been taken by the Adversary in PG and Becomes so angry that she can't speak without driving people mad. And in the end Mab still can't make herself do what must be done. So she frees Murphy to kill her. This is some of Jim's best writing.
--- Quote from: Arjan on February 21, 2020, 02:49:03 PM ---I thought that was obvious.
But here you see the difference between Maeve and Molly.
Maeve thinks I am screwed, I get everything else screwed even more.
Molly thinks I have a duty, it is really important, get over it.
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We'll see. Molly has impulse control issues as well and has shown an unnerving tendency to value her own opinion pretty highly. In Turn Coat the only thing that kept her from running afoul of the Council was Morgan's decision not to share what he knew. That Molly had invaded Luccio's mind.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 22, 2020, 06:26:44 PM ---The whole point of the show on the mountain was about Mab's love of Maeve. She discovers she's been taken by the Adversary in PG and Becomes so angry that she can't speak without driving people mad. And in the end Mab still can't make herself do what must be done. So she frees Murphy to kill her. This is some of Jim's best writing.We'll see. Molly has impulse control issues as well and has shown an unnerving tendency to value her own opinion pretty highly. In Turn Coat the only thing that kept her from running afoul of the Council was Morgan's decision not to share what he knew. That Molly had invaded Luccio's mind.
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Molly was quite young at that time and showed continuous improvement over time in sometimes difficult circumstances.
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