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KurtinStGeorge:
I doubt that half-turned Red Court vamps were still considered to be in the same category as ordinary mortals. I think the White Council might have placed half-turned Red Court vamps in the same category as White Court vampires, and with good reason. Neither groups would age, making them theoretically immortal and they were both essentially humans with a demon inside of them. OK, in the case of half-turned vamps it was an infection of the Red Court inside of them, but that almost amounts to the same thing. Both groups had superhuman strength. Of course, White Court vampires had more and greater supernatural powers because the demon inside of them was fully integrated within each individual WCV, but that doesn't change the fact that the half-turned Red Court vampires were qualitatively different from ordinary mortals. Plus, before the ritual at Chicken Pizza there weren't any known examples of someone being freed from the blood thirst of the Red Court. And let's not forget they were all one step away from becoming full fledged vampires.
So my guess is that when Harry completed the ritual which destroyed the Red Court, the collateral deaths of the half-turned members of the Fellowship of St. Giles wasn't considered a violation of the laws of magic.
g33k:
--- Quote from: noblehunter on February 25, 2020, 04:59:26 PM --- ... He's probably got all the raw power he needs for the BAT, he just needs to learn how to use it for maximum advantage.
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I don't think so. Recall how Odin just flattened him in Changes, with raw willpower. We've seen no hints that Harry is in that league.
Mother Winter did it, too, in Cold Days... And although he used Soulfire to break the binding, it took a herculean effort (and doesn't seem to have phased or inconvenienced MW at all; if she'd wanted to, she could have just killed him before he mustered himself). It remains to be seen if MW actually taught him the general solution to that Immortals' trick (the Red King & LoON's tried it, too (Bob helped break that binding); and Mr. Ferro, at Bianca's party), as part of powering-up the WK for the Battle To Come.
Jim has stated that -- all the way through the Dresden Files -- he plans to keep Harry as a relatively small fish... growing, yes, but always swimming into deeper waters, never being the Big Fish. So Harry's gonna get more power-ups as he gets closer to the BAT.
Mira:
--- Quote ---So my guess is that when Harry completed the ritual which destroyed the Red Court, the collateral deaths of the half-turned members of the Fellowship of St. Giles wasn't considered a violation of the laws of magic.
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The human life span if all goes well can run approximately a hundred years, some may go to hundred and ten, very few perhaps to one hundred and twenty, a couple have claimed to live longer, but proof of their actual age is sketchy.. So any of the Fellowship who were beyond a hundred years of age were way past a normal life span for a human.. No, in my opinion they could no longer be considered human, at least not normal humans.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on April 11, 2020, 04:02:09 PM --- The human life span if all goes well can run approximately a hundred years, some may go to hundred and ten, very few perhaps to one hundred and twenty, a couple have claimed to live longer, but proof of their actual age is sketchy.. So any of the Fellowship who were beyond a hundred years of age were way past a normal life span for a human.. No, in my opinion they could no longer be considered human, at least not normal humans.
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Wizards?
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on April 11, 2020, 04:35:58 PM ---Wizards?
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Well, wizards are not normal are they? ::) But do we know of any half turned wizards that belonged
to St Giles?
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