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Should representatives from the Paranet attend peace talks
KurtinStGeorge:
It seems to me the Paranet could perhaps be on par with the Venatori Umborium. In fact this group might be the Paranet's most natural ally. They do mostly intel work though occasionally they get into fights. Here is how one fan site described them:
The Venatori Umborium are a collection of men and women around the world who have knowledge of the supernatural community and a community of support and means to effect them. In the war between the Red Court and White Council, the Venatori have made bold attacks in shutting down Red Court resources (like bank accounts), discrediting Red Court members in positions of power and even having raids where Red Court members will disappear off the map. Harry Dresden believes that some members would act to destroy some supernatural creatures simply because they are such in his conversation with this subconscious in Fool Moon.
With the exception of Elaine, the vast majority of paranet members lack even the limited combat ability that some members Venatori Umborium have. So I have to agree with dspringer1's statements below.
--- Quote from: dspringer1 on October 22, 2019, 12:28:26 AM ---3) There is NO WAY the paraneters today have the the power to establish themselves as an accord nation. Their power is just way too weak. I do not care how powerful Elaine is, you would need a hundred Elaines to begin to have enough power to establish the paraneters as a true supernatural nation under the accords.
3) The Paranet might be able to establish themselves as a 2nd tier organization like that human society that is an ally of the White Council. Clearly much weaker than the White Council or any other full accord member, but they have some formal status/place within the larger supernatural community and could formally ally with one of the supernatural nations like the White Council. That status would give them more protection/status than they have today and I think that is one of the two possible outcomes Harry planned for when establishing the Paranet to begin with. The other (preferred) being that the White Council expands itself to include the lesser talents.
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However, it seems to me the current position of the Paranet is most similar to that of the Fellowship of Saint Giles during the White Council's war with the Red Court. A peace treaty between the White Council and the Fomor is not in their interest, just as the Fellowship welcomed the war between the wizards and vampires. I think that what most paranet members, and more specifically what Elaine would want is for the Fomor to be driven back into the sea. That can't happen if the Fomor are granted territories they can lord over.
Elaine is the wild card in this conversation. She is the defacto leader of the paranet, if it can be said to have a leader at all. It's not her power as a wizard that makes Elaine someone to be reckoned with. It's her power; that very few people know about, combined with the intelligence gathering ability of the paranet, plus her attitude towards the White Council. Now that the Fellowship of Saint Giles is no more, would Elaine consider taking in someone like the late Hannah Ascher as a paranet member? Someone who is a warlock, but not bat sh*t crazy. You can put a pin in that last idea for now, it's just random speculation at the present. My main point is that Elaine would probably rather disrupt the talks between the Council and the Fomor than be a part of them. In fact, if she could do anything to turn other Accord members against the Fomor, why wouldn't she do it? My guess is that in her own mind Elaine is already something of an outlaw.
Elaine has the ability to make bad things happen to people and not people, and if no one is left alive to tell what happened, someone else will be blamed. If a small group of Fomor servitors were ambushed and wiped out during what I'm assuming will be a temporary truce period for the peace talks, who would the Fomor blame? If a Fomor bomb or other weapon was used in an attack against a delegate from an accorded nation at the talks, who is going blame the paranet for it? No one.
I'm not expecting Elaine to show up in Peace Talks, but if she does I think she will be there as a disruptive force, not as someone trying to get the paranet recognized as a accorded nation.
123Chikadee:
You know, I hadn't considered that Elaine would be a disruptive force. But hey, I think they could also ally with the Venatori Umborium and that would work pretty well. I know most of the Paranet don't have the means to defend themselves, but I figure that on the whole, they'd want to change that. Especially after White Night.
Hm, well Peace Talks is supposed to be huge, so maybe she's squeezed in there somewhere. Maybe we'll get to see Thomas and Elaine interact again, but that's just me.
Arjan:
Or Sarissa pops up and Elaine is working for her.
Firestarter:
Why? Why should a representative from Paranet take place at Peace Talks?
Paranet is an info network for people who have some connection to the supernatural to be able to communicate and help each other out. It's the paranormal version of a neighborhood watch.
White Council is doing it's best to protect and police human wizards, because they are human. The reason Paranet had to come into existence was that White Council suffered extreme losses and didn't have enough people. So lesser talents were suddenly encountering issues that were originally take care by the Wardens or a freelance wizard of the White Council.
White council are the guys with the big guns who can take big monsters down. That gives them the right to have become a member of the Accords.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Firestarter on November 11, 2019, 10:41:26 AM ---Why? Why should a representative from Paranet take place at Peace Talks?
Paranet is an info network for people who have some connection to the supernatural to be able to communicate and help each other out. It's the paranormal version of a neighborhood watch.
White Council is doing it's best to protect and police human wizards, because they are human. The reason Paranet had to come into existence was that White Council suffered extreme losses and didn't have enough people. So lesser talents were suddenly encountering issues that were originally take care by the Wardens or a freelance wizard of the White Council.
White council are the guys with the big guns who can take big monsters down. That gives them the right to have become a member of the Accords.
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Because Elaine thinks her debt to Summer is over but that is far from certain, those debts are usually not that easy to get rid of (there is old woj about that if I remember correctly). She probably does not want to get involved, the white council might notice her, but she might not have any choice. But then she probably wants the paranet to keep out of it.
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