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Some thoughts on Stormfront

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Mira:

--- Quote ---That’s true on the surface, but reading between the lines, it would seem that the White Court is involved. Sells was working for a company called SilverCo (which follows the naming conventions for Raith business concerns); he used sex rituals to power his spells; he was clearly being guided/ groomed by someone higher up in the food chain - if you think about it, his main enemies are Marcone & later Harry - 2 people who would be the largest obstacles to power in taking control of Chicago (except for, of course the Raiths).
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That doesn't change the facts that he was merely someone with talent that fell into the same trap so many warlocks fall into.   Once he became one or a sorcerer, not sure what exactly is the difference is,  he became a cat's paw.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on October 04, 2019, 02:07:16 AM ---Morris - Explicitly, in Cold Days. Lily (Summer Lady) tells Dresden about Nemesis, and tells him of his first three cases and confirms it.

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Implicitly, not explicitly.


--- Quote ---"And ... this plague. What does it do?" I asked.
"It changes that which ought not change," she said quietly. "It destroys a father's love for his family by twisting it into maniacal ambition. ...
"Victor Sells the Shadowman," I whispered. ...
"Yes," Lily whispered. "each of them was tainted by the contagion. It destroyed them."
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Let's assume Lily knows what she's talking about and hasn't been fed a line by Maeve on this count. This is a fairy talking, so we can't take what she says at face value. We have to parse it for weasel words. Kravos is one of the "them." We can use him for an example of how "tainted" and "destroyed" don't necessarily mean infected. The events of Grave Peril were obviously orchestrated by a faction tangled up with Outside. Who's a pawn and who's moving the pawns will probably be unclear for a good long while. Kravos could have been manipulated (or down stream of someone manipulated) by Nemesis. Therefore he was tainted, but not infected, by Nemesis. It's obvious that he was destroyed by the scheme's being played out in Grave Peril.

My opinion is that if Lily hasn't been fed a line, then it's more likely than not that Victor was infected. Without that assumption, I can't say it's more likely than not.

Why would Maeve lie? Because she can. Because the effects it has on Dresden. The shock alone affects his judgment. He now "knows" he can't necessarily trust any of his mortal friends because mortals are susceptible.


--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 04, 2019, 01:42:33 PM ---Victor Sells can be accounted for by the damaging affect of Black Magic.  The FBI agents by the effects of the hexen wolf belts and so on. 

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Sells could have been fed black magic by a Nemesis infected agent. This would have "tainted" and "destroyed" him. Same with the wolf belts.

Kindler:
Sells didn't need to be Infected. I believe that a Nemesis ally could've influenced a man like him very easily, without requiring direct Infection. Ditto the FBI agents.

They both reek of the kind of mental attacks Molly discussed in Turn Coat. They were made "more of what they are," so to speak. Sells was angry at his situation and greedy; he was made angrier and greedier, enough to do the things he did. The FBI agents were furious that the System they worked for couldn't touch someone like Marcone, so their indignation was redirected and given an outlet. Even Bianca's grief was used against her in Grave Peril, and she was basically totally nuts by then.

Mira:

--- Quote ---They both reek of the kind of mental attacks Molly discussed in Turn Coat. They were made "more of what they are," so to speak. Sells was angry at his situation and greedy; he was made angrier and greedier, enough to do the things he did. The FBI agents were furious that the System they worked for couldn't touch someone like Marcone, so their indignation was redirected and given an outlet. Even Bianca's grief was used against her in Grave Peril, and she was basically totally nuts by then.
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  I think it is much simpler than that, it is the corrupting influence of the dark magic.  Remember Molly's attitude about going into the minds of her friends almost indifferent to the damage she had caused.  It is all part of the addictive nature of dark magic and the ability of the warlock to rationalize what they are doing is right.     

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Con on October 03, 2019, 07:27:27 AM ---I mean it's already confirmed some nemesis infection, when Dresden finds out about Nemesis it lists his first three cases. Oh and the Red Court were most likely involved given they tried to supercharge the spell to hit ancestors in Changes.

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According to Lily, who was deceived about a lot.

According to WOJ, the first N-fected character to appear on stage was in GP. I'd be surprised if that was one of the rare occasions when he had to lie in a Q&A to prevent spoilers, since Sells is ancient history at this point. I think the N-fected character was Sells' teacher, either Lord Raith or Cowl.

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