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Did Kemmler start the Black Council?

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Avernite:
I could see Kemmler starting the Black Council as his cult of stooges, Cowl takes it over after his fall (and Kemmler died because Cowl turned on him), but without Kemmler the cult loses its central focus and key power.

So Cowl brought in the Outsiders to fill Kemmler's shoes inside the cult.

toodeep:
There is probably a circle, since we have heard that referenced, though that could have been ruse for Madrigal's benefit.

The Black Council is probably a blanket group of nfected beings.  We know Cowl must be nfected - they provided an nfected vector to the Leanshea.  That was almost certainly intentional, and lets face it, you don't know about nfection and propagate it if you aren't nfected yourself.  It is literally messing with the end of reality to do so, so you pretty much have to be nfected to think its a good idea.  I can see summoning outsiders to do your bidding if you aren't nfected because you have an illusion of control, but deliberately propagating nfection has no control and thus implies spreading nfection is the only goal.

Now, as we heard in Cowl's soliloquy, he doesn't think he's insane, so it is likely that while he is nfected, he doesn't believe he is nfected, so he has to rationalize his actions which may be part of being part of an organization like the Circle.  A group of beings ostensibly working together to increase their own power, but somehow their activities also always wind up serving the outsiders.

Snark Knight:
I wouldn't conclude the circle are all infected. We don't even know if humans CAN be infected.

I think they think they're using the outsiders, but they're being used in turn.

forumghost:
My thoughts on the Black Council are that they're a loose alliance of Malcontents that want to shake up the current power structure to come out on top. I also think that, if any one person's going to be behind it, it'll be Maggie, and poor Harry is just stuck cleaning up his mother's mess.

Lord Raith was involved, as was Cowl, Arianna, and probably Maggie Sr (I also suspect this club is where Nick knew Maggie from). The meeting that Maggie invited Eb into was about him joining, and they fought because as much a Eb hates the Council's Guts, he's not dumb enough to work with the types that Maggie was/he knew better then to mess with the forces they wanted to use in their upcoming war with... basically everyone, I suppose.

I also want to guess that the reason Maggie bailed on them was because she found out about Nemesis, realized that she's accidentally helped form the Injusice League (ooops) and wanted to Manhattan Project up an anti-outsider (Harry) to try and fix it. This is what she meant when she talked to Harry in Thomas's Soulgaze about being sorry for the burden she placed on him- He was the tool she made to save the world from her own Glorious Fuck-ups.

Bad Alias:
I like the idea that it's all Harry's mom's fault.

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