The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
What questions should Harry be asking?
Mira:
--- Quote ---I mean, she's totally evil though? She's not just evil, granted, but she is still (sometimes pointlessly) cruel, power-hungry, utterly ruthless, and entirely willing to do profoundly monstrous things in the name of her cause. Like, if Mab wasn't evil, we wouldn't need to have an entire Faction sitting in the wings with loaded shotguns watching her 24/7.
--- End quote ---
No, she is Winter, a force of nature, and she is necessary. I wouldn't call her power hungry, she hasn't crossed the line at the Stone Table. Would you have your enemy guarding the gates that keeps realmonsters out? Mab and her army does.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 26, 2020, 11:30:43 AM --- No, she is Winter, a force of nature, and she is necessary. I wouldn't call her power hungry, she hasn't crossed the line at the Stone Table. Would you have your enemy guarding the gates that keeps real monsters out? Mab and her army does.
--- End quote ---
So, because she's "Not as bad as the literal reality consuming eldritch horrors from beyond the stars" she's a good guy? Is that really your argument? Like, yeah, she's a necessary evil, but "Necessary Evil" is a two-part description, you know?
I mean Nick is also Anti-Outsider, but I don't see anyone arguing that he's actually just a misunderstood good guy probably because his Ass isn't as Phat.
Like, remember when Harry tries to call her out for hurting him after he refuses to do one of her favours, and she tells him that she didn't do it to coerce him, she just hurt him for spite?
Remember what she did to her last Knight? That went well beyond the realm of "Necessary" and into torture for tortures sake.
Like, she is literally the Queen of Evil Faeries.
Mab is a lot deeper then she initially appears, but that doesn't make her a Hero. She's a Villain that is pointed in a direction that benefits the universe.
morriswalters:
The white god terrorized Job and his family, killed everybody on Earth except for some old guy on a boat, killed the firstborn of Egypt and rained fire down on a city killing everybody. He/she then turned a person who disobeyed him by looking back at it into a pillar of salt. Oh, and lest I forget, he/she sends you to burn in hell for an eternity if he/she doesn't appreciate that you blew him/her the bird at the Christmas party. Clearly we need to be careful in the way we use the word evil when we talk about Gods and Monsters.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 26, 2020, 12:26:30 PM ---The white god terrorized Job and his family, killed everybody on Earth except for some old guy on a boat, killed the firstborn of Egypt and rained fire down on a city killing everybody. He/she then turned a person who disobeyed him by looking back at it into a pillar of salt. Oh, and lest I forget, he/she sends you to burn in hell for an eternity if he/she doesn't appreciate that you blew him/her the bird at the Christmas party. Clearly we need to be careful in the way we use the word evil when we talk about Gods and Monsters.
--- End quote ---
Yup, Mab is a force of nature, at times she can be very cruel, but is she any more cruel than the God described in the Old Testament?. I agree, she isn't, nor is she evil, she does what she thinks must be done to keep the world safe from the Outside. That can be cruel, and it can be ruthless, maybe if star born Harry does win in the BAT, she can begin to be merciful, if she survives it. Summer is also a force of nature, she can be cruel also. Would you call Titania evil? She appears sweet and warm but she has shown herself to be every bit as vindictive as Mab ever was. Titania knows that her daughter had to die because she was infected, yet in her grief she tries to get revenge. The Mothers live side by side in harmony, crusty old Mother Winter who plays with meat cleavers and has spit that will burn holes in floors and sweet old apple cheeked Mother Summer, but don't be fooled by the sweetness.
Dina:
Just my 2 cents. I believe Mab began considering Harry an enemy but I think that has slowly changed, and I don't mean because she succeeded in making him his WK but just because spending time with him. Harry has an effect on people and I think in this case Mab is included.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version