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What questions should Harry be asking?
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: bigdangmoose on September 25, 2020, 08:40:07 PM ---No, it was in one of the book signing videos on YouTube from years ago. Don't remember which one. Also, being that it was from years ago, he could have changed his tune on the relationship between Mab and Harry.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DcWwAtEiw&feature=youtu.be&t=1673
Mira:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on September 25, 2020, 10:08:00 PM ---https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DcWwAtEiw&feature=youtu.be&t=1673
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Actually I think that answer is inconclusive. Titania, yes, he says she is nervous about Harry, but Mab is keeping her enemies close. I'd argue that yeah, that holds true for the books, Titania, she has never gotten over Aurora's death, or that Harry engineered it. Nor apparently is she getting along with Mab, they aren't speaking as of Peace Talks. Mab, I think is a little more complicated, and it is reflected in the books. We know she plays four dimensional chess, and this is how she may be playing Harry, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer" type thing. However that isn't exactly how she is treating Harry these days as she comes to respect him. I think there was a turning point when she exposed the glimmer of vulnerable humanity in her when Maeve died to him.
But as Kringle said, there is a lot of pride in that creature. No, I doubt that they will ever become friends, Mab doesn't make friends, but I really don't think they are enemies either. Even Harry is coming around, there are glimmers of that in Peace Talks, that Mab isn't all evil or his enemy. Perhaps Molly's influence has something to do with that, and Rashid as well, Mab has a really difficult vital job to do and she doesn't suffer fools.
forumghost:
As Lea put it, she (as Mab's right-hand woman no less) is a "Trusted enemy", that's kinda just how Mab rolls. She doesn't do Allies/Friends.
I think of it as the Sauron problem. Sauron lost because in the end he couldn't envision a world where his enemies would want to destroy the Ring, instead of using it, because that's what Sauron would do.
Mab assumes that everyone is an enemy, because she assumes that everyone would act the way that she would, and she would be waiting in the wings for an opportunity to shank the big bitch in the Prison Yard.
Mira:
--- Quote from: forumghost on September 25, 2020, 11:31:48 PM ---As Lea put it, she (as Mab's right-hand woman no less) is a "Trusted enemy", that's kinda just how Mab rolls. She doesn't do Allies/Friends.
I think of it as the Sauron problem. Sauron lost because in the end he couldn't envision a world where his enemies would want to destroy the Ring, instead of using it, because that's what Sauron would do.
Mab assumes that everyone is an enemy, because she assumes that everyone would act the way that she would, and she would be waiting in the wings for an opportunity to shank the big bitch in the Prison Yard.
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The reasoning works, but Sauron was evil, his view that everyone desired to dominate everyone else, thus desired the One Ring that Ruled Them All, and could be corrupted by that power. Many were, but he lost because a small handful did not desire that power. Mab can be ruthless and cruel, but that is what Winter is, however she isn't evil. I think Harry has viewed her as an enemy, or his enemy because he is afraid of her and never understood her. I think he is still afraid of her, but I also think he is beginning to understand her better.
forumghost:
I mean, she's totally evil though? She's not just evil, granted, but she is still (sometimes pointlessly) cruel, power-hungry, utterly ruthless, and entirely willing to do profoundly monstrous things in the name of her cause. Like, if Mab wasn't evil, we wouldn't need to have an entire Faction sitting in the wings with loaded shotguns watching her 24/7.
Not that she's required to be so for my argument anyway. She just needs to view everyone as just as power-hungry and ruthless as her- which she does.
I mean, just look at her views on Harry's relationship with Molly.
If you want to argue that Harry may come to consider her something other then an enemy, then sure, but we're talking about Mab, not Harry.
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