The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Souls and Ghosts.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on December 23, 2019, 05:58:10 PM ---I mean whatever Kumori did in Dead Beat to the mobster with the assumption there wasn't a soul there. Souls don't linger after death. Ghosts might be created. The guy died. So if his soul had time to take the next step, either Kumori had to pull it back from where ever or give the guy life without a soul. To bring him back wrong in a way only a soulgaze (more precisely a lack thereof) would definitively reveal.
Alternatively, there's some time between death and the soul taking the next step and Kumori acted in that window, but what fun is that?
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Souls do sometimes linger after death if they see the opportunity and wish to do so. Harry did, corpstaker did and I am suspicious about ser Stuart.
--- Quote ---Bob waved a hand. “Harry. Dead isn’t . . . Look, even by terms of the nonsupernatural, dead is a really fuzzy area. Even mortal medicine regards death as a kind of process more than a state of being—a reversible process, in some circumstances.”
“What are you getting at?” I asked.
“There’s a difference between dead and . . . and gone.”
I swallowed. “So . . . what do I do?”
Bob lunged to his feet. “What do you do?” He pointed at the table of Mother Butters’s feast food. “You’ve got that to maybe get back to, and you’re asking me what to do? You find your freaking killer! We’ll both do it! I’ll totally help!”
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--- Quote ---“Dead is a grey word,” Mab hissed. “Mortals fear it, and so they wish it to be black—and they have but few words to contain its reality. It escapes from such constraints. Death is a spectrum, not a line. And you, my knight, had not yet vanished into the utter darkness.”
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The important one here is the difference between dead and gone.
Bad Alias:
I'm not so sure about Corpsetaker being a soul instead of just a ghost. Harry is an exception. Sir Stuart is a suspicious case. Jim specifically said "souls" do not "linger."
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on December 24, 2019, 08:22:12 PM ---I'm not so sure about Corpsetaker being a soul instead of just a ghost. Harry is an exception. Sir Stuart is a suspicious case. Jim specifically said "souls" do not "linger."
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As a rule they don't but there are exceptions.
Corpstaker went with the southward train:
--- Quote ---I saw her try to scream.
But all I heard was the blaring howl of the horn of a southbound train.
And then she was gone.
“You’re right,” Uriel said, his tone filled with a chill satisfaction. “Someone needed to do something.” He glanced aside at me, gave me a slight bow of his head, and said, “Well-done.”
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And Uriel was quite satisfied with that. I think it is a necromancer ability to linger after dead and return. Kemmler did it a few times and corpstaker was his disciple. What corpstaker made corpstaker was utterly evil but she had not lost herself in it, it was her. Uriel would not have been that satisfied with the destruction of a mere ghost, this was bringing a soul to her destination.
And Harry is a necromancer too, thanks too Bob.
nadia.skylark:
--- Quote ---I'm not so sure about Corpsetaker being a soul instead of just a ghost. Harry is an exception. Sir Stuart is a suspicious case. Jim specifically said "souls" do not "linger."
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Corpsetaker was taken by a southbound train at the end, though. That would seem to indicate that he/she* is an exception.
*random point: do we know what gender Corpsetaker is? In Dead Beat he/she is always referred to with male pronouns by those he/she works with, even when in a female body. But in Ghost Story, Corpsetaker keeps being referred to as "Lady Shade."
Bad Alias:
Forgot the southbound train bit.
I'm assuming Corpsetaker was a woman because the shade was, and the description didn't fit any bodies we've seen Corpsetaker inhabit. I assume everyone who referred to her as a he was first introduced to Corpsetaker in a man's body.
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